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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RufusW wrote:

I wear a full face helmet and give everyone 15+ meters in front of me.


too bad you wont be given it in return
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Moldy Rutabaga



Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward to the thrill of the open road and the wind in my face with the throb of the engine... as soon as convertibles are common here.

Until then, I wouldn't take a scooter on any more than a back road in the countryside in the daytime. Even then you need to be watchful.

Something obvious I've forgotten -- my condolences to the OP.
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RufusW



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curiousaboutkorea wrote:
RufusW wrote:

I wear a full face helmet and give everyone 15+ meters in front of me.


too bad you wont be given it in return

True. I was driving once and a cement mixer lorry was on my back, I waved him off and he actually opened up a space between us.
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="RufusW"]I've been commuting in Busan on my 125cc motorbike for a month now. quote]

Busan has got to be dangerous. i've seen some of those blind turns on the cliffs. You dodge a car the wrong way, you are over the railing falling to your death at the rocky coastline below.
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wormholes101



Joined: 11 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Learning to ride bike in a busy Korean city isn't a good idea.

If you live in a quiet-ish suburb or are experienced, go for it. It takes a unique blend of defensive and aggressive riding to be safe here.
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karoly



Joined: 01 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: necessity Reply with quote

With experience you're one step away from toast at ALL times.

You need b*lls/large ov*ries and this:

http://www.stebel.it/stebel2009/products.asp?IDserie=6&uso=&tipologia=ELECTROPNEUMATICS

or something very similar, and a penchant for using it. But, get the smaller, circular one for bikes. This one was ripped off my ride by some beeps.

Otherwise you're fresh meat, waiting to be picked up for the 고기 식당
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been riding legally since I was 14 and I squeam when I hear about new riders wanting to learn to ride in Korea.

This is insanity folks. I've taken the advanced motorcycle safety course in America and yet the dangers lurking around every corner here are daunting.

The most dangerous part for me is not only do you have to watch your front and periphery, you constantly have to watch your back for those jerks who would be more than happy to run you over to save a second.

Having to pay attention to all three simultaneously is impossible. I've almost been killed three times this year and I've had some serious road rage incidents.

My goal with, six months left, is not to be killed and not to kill the next friggin a hole who puts my life at risk.
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D.D.



Joined: 29 May 2008

PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zulethe wrote:
I've been riding legally since I was 14 and I squeam when I hear about new riders wanting to learn to ride in Korea.

This is insanity folks. I've taken the advanced motorcycle safety course in America and yet the dangers lurking around every corner here are daunting.

The most dangerous part for me is not only do you have to watch your front and periphery, you constantly have to watch your back for those jerks who would be more than happy to run you over to save a second.

Having to pay attention to all three simultaneously is impossible. I've almost been killed three times this year and I've had some serious road rage incidents.

My goal with, six months left, is not to be killed and not to kill the next friggin a hole who puts my life at risk.


I guess you could just not ride or notice when you point your fingers at the ahole putting your life at risk that 3 fingers are pointing back at another person putting your life at risk.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd also like to offer my condolences to the OP

In my case there isn't any other way to travel, I live in the sticks and if I want to catch a bus to one of my schools I'd have to get on it at 6.30 am and thats not an option

But I've got a beautiful ride to work over some hills through forests. Where I'm at now is riders heaven. I've also been riding most of my life because I grew up on a farm.

Also, spring and summer are coming up and the beaches and mountains are too good to miss. Let's be honest, In Asia you can get run over crossing a street when the lights are green and in your favor so I'll just continue enjoying my ride to work and the calmness and relaxation I get from it

P.S. I also used to ride in Ulsan, that was crazy, but damn how often can you get an adrenaline rush just going for your groceries
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Faunaki



Joined: 15 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode in Taiwan and was going to in Seoul too until I came here and realized that it was way too dangerous. Had a close call in Taiwan but kept on riding cause it was just too much fun, my lungs suffered greatly from it tho.

Sorry to hear about the guy who died, that's just crappy.
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Cerberus



Joined: 29 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was considering getting a bike as a means of more conveniently getting around, but this thread has definitely put the kaibosh in that thinking!!!!

I remember JongnoGuru - some fine contributions to this Forum. My deep condolensces.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cerberus and any other who are on the edge, come on over to the motorcycle sticky in general discussion to get real advice from the adrenaline filled riders in Korea.

Don't ride a scooter, I agree with that. Get a full frame, manual shift motorcycle and tour the country. Except for riding my girlfriend, it's the best and longest lasting thrill I've had in Korea. Sure there's risk on wheels, but it's better than dying of old age in a bed.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dirving wrote:
Geoff lived in Jinju City for many years.

Shocked I.. I think I knew him. Rode a nice scooter. Drank with him by the river one night with an Irish friend.

Was interested in a b-bone but bought myself a Korando. Was looking for the battering ram bars at the front to survive head-on collisions. Am careful as heck when driving. Avoid night driving, in rain, busy side streets, etc.
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