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madoka
Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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I spend several thousand dollars in the iTunes store every year. Now my itunes library is approaching 1.5 tb. Hell yes I'm getting an ipad! My only question is how many.
And yeah, I also own a Macbook Air, a Macbook Pro 17, a Mac Pro and several iPhones, but I wouldn't say I'm a Apple fanboy. I also have 2 netbooks, 4 PC laptops, and 9 PCs around the house. I appreciate a good computer and the ipad is going to fit my needs quite well. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| I'm thinking about getting one for graduate school. It's really down to an Ipad or a Kindle. The main problem with the ipad is that LCD screens burn out your eyes. |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| I'm thinking about getting one for graduate school. It's really down to an Ipad or a Kindle. The main problem with the ipad is that LCD screens burn out your eyes. |
I'm also in the market for a Kindle, but the latest flap with the publishers has made me put that on hold. I read a lot, but I can't stomach paying $14 for a new release when the hardcover version is $16. The publishers need to get their collective heads out of their asses. I've put off my purchase til I see what effect the iPad has on e-book prices. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Adam Carolla wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
| I'm thinking about getting one for graduate school. It's really down to an Ipad or a Kindle. The main problem with the ipad is that LCD screens burn out your eyes. |
I'm also in the market for a Kindle, but the latest flap with the publishers has made me put that on hold. I read a lot, but I can't stomach paying $14 for a new release when the hardcover version is $16. The publishers need to get their collective heads out of their asses. I've put off my purchase til I see what effect the iPad has on e-book prices. |
http://gizmodo.com/5496157/amazon-threatens-to-dump-two-major-publishers-read-they-just-lost-the-price-war |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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What Amazon should do is become a publisher.
Cut out the middle man. Setup your own publishing company. Give authors a bigger cut of the sales, and Amazon can keep the rest. They can print books on demand. Google came out with a printing machine that will print/bind a book in a matter of hours. If someone orders a hardcopy of a book from one of their own publishers, they can print the books and ship them on demand. No inventory costs.
Bookstores would just simply order books in bulk directly from Amazon instead of going through a publishing/printing company. Authorized book sellers can receive additional discounts so the brick and mortar book stores can take a higher margin. |
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Englishee
Joined: 21 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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im tired of hearing, "iphones are better than blackberries." "blackberries are better than iphones." "pc's are better than macs" "macs are better than pcs."
"macs are over priced" "apple fanboys are stupid and are too susceptible to marketing..."
if you are making statements like this, then you obviously do not know enough about each product line, its purpose, intended audience, or technology in general.
personally, i think the ipad is useless on a large scale as it is just an over-sized ipod. however, i can appreciate its purpose and i can see a market for it...
i was one of those people who bought a Macbook Air, and i even though it was overpriced and an overall POS. but it served my purpose in my price range...
so basically, if u don't know what you are talking about, stfu and stop making yourself look ignorant. |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| jdog2050 wrote: |
| Adam Carolla wrote: |
| jdog2050 wrote: |
| I'm thinking about getting one for graduate school. It's really down to an Ipad or a Kindle. The main problem with the ipad is that LCD screens burn out your eyes. |
I'm also in the market for a Kindle, but the latest flap with the publishers has made me put that on hold. I read a lot, but I can't stomach paying $14 for a new release when the hardcover version is $16. The publishers need to get their collective heads out of their asses. I've put off my purchase til I see what effect the iPad has on e-book prices. |
http://gizmodo.com/5496157/amazon-threatens-to-dump-two-major-publishers-read-they-just-lost-the-price-war |
Thanks for the link. I knew something was going on (again) when a new release e-book I was waiting to buy suddenly wasn't available. I figured it had something to do with the pricing dispute. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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Will give my own perspective on these:
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| -watching/showing videos |
I'm sure it's display is fantastic. The main caveat is that, if it's the same as the iPhone/Touch, you will need to convert videos to a format iTunes likes. This is a giant pain in the ass.
I use the New York Times app on my ipod. Great app, made greater because you can download the newspaper and view it offline, ie when you're not in wifi range. Netbooks might be able to do this, I've never tried.
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| -getting information (ie. Wiki) |
Depends on wifi unless you get the 3G version of the iPad if I'm not mistaken. If you have wifi, then it's probably equivalent to a netbook. If you have 3G, then it would have an advantage over a netbook. (But you pay for 3G.)
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| -showing simple materials/photos |
Showing photos is amazing on the iPod Touch, I'm sure the iPad would be similar. The downside is that you need to load photos through iTunes. Not a big deal. A netbook would be able to do the same, though it wouldn't have nearly the "wow" factor of swiping your finger across the screen to scroll photos.
Typing will be slower if you are a decent touch typist. Netbook would get a nod here if you are a decent typist. One thing in the iPad's favor is the e-mail notification system that alerts you to new e-mails as soon as you get them (depending on how long you have it set to check. My Touch is set to check every 15 minutes.)
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| -reading comic books |
Not aware of any comic book apps for the iPad/Touch, which is not to say there aren't any. There is a famous one for PC whose name escapes me at the moment.
I'd say the iPad is better than a netbook due to more convenient form factor.
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| -simple office inputting (not much typing... just entering numbers in an excel like program on occasion) |
Probably doesn't matter what you get for that.
If it's music on the go, probably the iPad over a netbook, thought I wouldn't choose either to listen to music on the move. Once seated at a table, they're probably very similar.
*This is all based on the iPad having the same OS and running the same apps as the iPhone/Touch, which seems likely. |
But the most important part of his question was "And all of this while I move from building to building, office to office, bus to train to coffee shop - carrying it. "
Who wants to pull out a netbook to read the NY Times while they're on the bus? Or to watch a video while they're on the subway?
Someone could have just as easily responded to his question saying "You want to watch your favorite video? Well you could do that on the iPad but my experience tells me you might get a better experience using an HDTV and a Blu-Ray player" |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for paying attention |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| But the most important part of his question was "And all of this while I move from building to building, office to office, bus to train to coffee shop - carrying it. " |
Here you go, Einstein.
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| If it's music on the go, probably the iPad over a netbook, though I wouldn't choose either to listen to music on the move. Once seated at a table, they're probably very similar. |
Now, listening to music on the iPad is probably the easiest thing you could to with it while you're walking around. You certainly aren't going to read a freaking newspaper on either device while walking down the street.
And as for the subway, that part wasn't addressed because an adult of average intelligence could probably figure it out on his own.
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| Who wants to pull out a netbook to read the NY Times while they're on the bus? Or to watch a video while they're on the subway? |
I guess you don't have much respect for the intelligence of others.
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| Someone could have just as easily responded to his question saying "You want to watch your favorite video? Well you could do that on the iPad but my experience tells me you might get a better experience using an HDTV and a Blu-Ray player" |
The iPad is good for some things, netbooks are good for others. I'm not a mind reader, I'm sure CC is a big enough boy he can figure out which will suit his needs better. |
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Adam Carolla
Joined: 26 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| thanks for paying attention |
Ah, by extension, I wasn't paying attention. (I was, but I thought you'd be able to figure out what suits you best with the information I provided.)
What you want is an iPhone or iPod Touch. |
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shostahoosier
Joined: 14 Apr 2009
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| Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| But the most important part of his question was "And all of this while I move from building to building, office to office, bus to train to coffee shop - carrying it. " |
Here you go, Einstein.
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| If it's music on the go, probably the iPad over a netbook, though I wouldn't choose either to listen to music on the move. Once seated at a table, they're probably very similar. |
Now, listening to music on the iPad is probably the easiest thing you could to with it while you're walking around. You certainly aren't going to read a freaking newspaper on either device while walking down the street. |
WOW...just wow 
No need to try to make it personal. I was just pointing out that you overlooked an important part of his question.
As for reading the newspaper while walking, plenty of people do it with a regular paper, and plenty of people will do it with this product. I also see people using this product to read a report, article, etc., EASILY, while walking...something you wont be doing with a netbook unless you want to start it up and look awkard holding a computer. There's a reason for the dimensions of the iPad.
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And as for the subway, that part wasn't addressed because an adult of average intelligence could probably figure it out on his own.
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| Who wants to pull out a netbook to read the NY Times while they're on the bus? Or to watch a video while they're on the subway? |
I guess you don't have much respect for the intelligence of others. |
I dont even understand your point. I dont respect the intellligence of others because they might find it annoying or akward to whip out a laptop in the middle of a crowded subway car to read the NY Times?! |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| thanks for paying attention |
Ah, by extension, I wasn't paying attention. (I was, but I thought you'd be able to figure out what suits you best with the information I provided.)
What you want is an iPhone or iPod Touch. |
In some ways, you were very much spot on. In other ways - no, you missed the mark.
Your suggestion about an iphone or ipod touch will not allow me to really read comics or show videos effectively in small presentations. I'd prefer the bigger screen.
What I really need is a large ipod touch - oh, wait... isn't that basically this product?
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red_devil
Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Adam Carolla wrote: |
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| thanks for paying attention |
Ah, by extension, I wasn't paying attention. (I was, but I thought you'd be able to figure out what suits you best with the information I provided.)
What you want is an iPhone or iPod Touch. |
What I really need is a large ipod touch - oh, wait... isn't that basically this product?
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Yes, actually that's quite an accurate assessment of the iPad. It really is an iPod Touch with a much bigger screen. People need to keep in mind that the iPad is a niche product that will serve a select number of people and industries. The big talk in town is that the iPad will help drowning newspapers into the digital era by allowing them to transition. Other print based companies such as Amazon will find new revenue streams in e-books.
I also think the iPad might be a good business accessory especially if it can read Excel, Word, PDF, and PPT documents like the iPhone can. Also, there is the VGA and Composite video adapters so i'll be able to take it to presentations and hook up to projector - won't need to lug around my laptop. Keep in mind that what really makes the iPhone/iTouch powerful is not out of the box functionality, but rather once you've decked it out with apps. 90% of the apps on my iPhone are free, i haven't spent much money on apps mainly games where i want the full version. Since the iPad will be able to run iPhone apps you already have some serious added functionality possible. |
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jdog2050
Joined: 17 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| red_devil wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Adam Carolla wrote: |
| Captain Corea wrote: |
| thanks for paying attention |
Ah, by extension, I wasn't paying attention. (I was, but I thought you'd be able to figure out what suits you best with the information I provided.)
What you want is an iPhone or iPod Touch. |
What I really need is a large ipod touch - oh, wait... isn't that basically this product?
lol |
Yes, actually that's quite an accurate assessment of the iPad. It really is an iPod Touch with a much bigger screen. People need to keep in mind that the iPad is a niche product that will serve a select number of people and industries. The big talk in town is that the iPad will help drowning newspapers into the digital era by allowing them to transition. Other print based companies such as Amazon will find new revenue streams in e-books.
I also think the iPad might be a good business accessory especially if it can read Excel, Word, PDF, and PPT documents like the iPhone can. Also, there is the VGA and Composite video adapters so i'll be able to take it to presentations and hook up to projector - won't need to lug around my laptop. Keep in mind that what really makes the iPhone/iTouch powerful is not out of the box functionality, but rather once you've decked it out with apps. 90% of the apps on my iPhone are free, i haven't spent much money on apps mainly games where i want the full version. Since the iPad will be able to run iPhone apps you already have some serious added functionality possible. |
I think getting e-pub into the 21st century is only half the story for the Ipad. Wanna know what the real market is? Old people. Seriously. Baby Boomers--the same market that ate up the Wii because someone finally made a video game system where you could just *do* things instead of memorizing arcane button techniques, etc.
The ipad, might, MIGHT snatch up that same market that's constantly bugging you about how to burn CDs, why their itrawebz isn't working, how to resize or flip pictures, how to...GOD, I'm getting annoyed just thinking about it. I'm on the edge of getting an Ipad for my mom. She's just started using email and stuff and this might be really useful for her.
I'm getting one because I'm not mega-impressed with the Kindle or the Nook and buying magazines from What the Book has getting steadily more ridiculous (even though it's not their fault...the exchange rate just blows right now. 16,000 Won for Adbusters? Yeah, way to fight the capitalist regime there guys). |
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