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brotherbillo
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
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 Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: Girlfriend visa problem |
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| Hi! Can anyone help me find out how to get my Ugandan girlfriend and her daughter into Korea to be with me on a year's contract? They have Ugandan passports but next to nothing in the way of official documents. Is there any way I can get them tourist visas and keep extending those visas for the year? I would really appreciate some guidance. I have a UK passport by the way and am in the UK at the moment and trying to get them out of Uganda as a matter of urgency for their own safety. |
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Richard Krainium
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Why don't you contact the Ugandan/UK embassies and Korean Immigration?
What do you mean by no official documents?
I think you're phishing. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:19 am Post subject: Re: Girlfriend visa problem |
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| brotherbillo wrote: |
| Hi! Can anyone help me find out how to get my Ugandan girlfriend and her daughter into Korea to be with me on a year's contract? They have Ugandan passports but next to nothing in the way of official documents. Is there any way I can get them tourist visas and keep extending those visas for the year? I would really appreciate some guidance. I have a UK passport by the way and am in the UK at the moment and trying to get them out of Uganda as a matter of urgency for their own safety. |
YOU have 3 choices:
1) Marry her. She (and her daughter) can easily get an F3 (dependent family) visa based on it
2) Get a new girlfriend who CAN travel or
3) Give up coming to Korea if you can't marry or abandon her.
She would have no hope of getting here on her own without being married to you. There is no "girlfriend" visa and she won't have the necessary background (assets, income, reason to return home) for a tourist visa. In fact, by your own admission, there is no reason for her to return home (a tourist visa requirement) and great reason to become either an illegal immigrant or burden (since you are not married and not liable for her if you should "break up" in future.
Perhaps you can assist her to gain refugee status in the UK. That would change things.
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: |
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brotherbillo,
Tom was being most helpful. He provided you with clear, relevant and objective options.
Do you prefer someone sugarcoats it for you?
To was right, you can get a work visa (E2) but she cannot get a tourist visa and you cannot tag her onto your visa as a dependent. Therefore you should consider what Tom says or consider another country with different visa laws.
Good luck in what appears to be a tough situation. |
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the ireland
Joined: 11 May 2008
Location: korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Girlfriend visa problem |
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| brotherbillo wrote: |
I don't even know what 'phishing' is thanks very much...
I was just getting nothing out of embassies and unless I can fly her out of the country soon she is going to have to give her child up. We are in love but I have no TEFL experience although I have a PGCE and 1 year of experience back in the 1990s before I abruptly left the profession due to illness. Most of my money is going on my CELTA course in May. This means that I need to find a good job fast (and one that pays airfare) - hence the interest in Korea.
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save your money you are going to spend on the celta for a start, that's not needed toet a job over here. use it to speak to some lawyers and try get your g.f to the u.k and apply for citizenship there.
You know it could take years for you to get her citizenship, even if you were to get married tomorrow.
Tompatz is one of the most helpful posters on the site and is always here to try help people, what he told you is true, sure he through in some of his own thoughts too, but he also provided you with very helpful, truthful and informative points too. |
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brotherbillo
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
Location: UK
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 10:30 am Post subject: Girlfriend visa problem |
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I wasn't getting narky with T but rather with suggestions that I was phishing and an unhelpful comment about racism. The situation is dire for us at the moment and I am very stressed and not in the mood for smart comments.
I think that the CELTA is a good investment and if I am to come to Korea on my own it will help me a lot. It may even help me to get a higher salary than I might have been able to get without it. That can only help me support my girlfriend and make any visa/citizenship attempts easier in the long run. It wouldn't be much good to simply spend what little money I have left on flying to Uganda and marrying her and being left with no job. |
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Scot-in-Ansan
Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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| A CELTA will not necessarily gaurantee you a higher wage in Korea. I suspect that I will not be alone in telling you this. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Girlfriend visa problem |
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| brotherbillo wrote: |
I wasn't getting narky with T but rather with suggestions that I was phishing and an unhelpful comment about racism. The situation is dire for us at the moment and I am very stressed and not in the mood for smart comments.
I think that the CELTA is a good investment and if I am to come to Korea on my own it will help me a lot. It may even help me to get a higher salary than I might have been able to get without it. That can only help me support my girlfriend and make any visa/citizenship attempts easier in the long run. It wouldn't be much good to simply spend what little money I have left on flying to Uganda and marrying her and being left with no job. |
IF you have your PGCE you won't need a CELTA. It will gain you nothing as a salary bump either.
Your PGCE goes farther as a teaching credential than a CELTA would if you plan to work in Asia.
There are NO countries in Asia whose visa laws would allow you to bring an unwed dependent (especially with child) with you.
Line up a job and visa.
Jump on a plane to UGANDA
Marry the lady
come to work
get your ARC (alien registration)
Get some jingle in your jeans
bring her here on an F3.
It is YOUR ONLY CHOICE if you want to bring her here.
The other un-nice options still remain as well.
I assume you are also aware of the difficulties involved in a cyber-relationship and eventually bringing them back home unless you have actually lived together with them and can prove that it is not just a "marriage of convenience".
This would be especially true for immigrants from mid-Africa at this point in time.
(and no, I am NOT putting personal bias into the answers). The consular officials you deal with however WILL.
It will be a long and expensive road (many thousands of pounds) to get her out and eventually get her home. I hope you have the stamina and deep pockets for it.
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brotherbillo
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:49 am Post subject: Girlfriend visa problem |
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Hi Tom, thanks for that. Could you elaborate on why it is going to be so long and expensive please?
By I the way I have reported the racist personal messager - you know who you are! |
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brotherbillo
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
Location: UK
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:59 am Post subject: Girlfriend visa problem |
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Thanks for the advice but right now I have no options really. If I am to look for work in Europe we will not survive on the wage. EFL work in the UK is a joke.
Racism aimed at my girlfriend and daughter face to face I can deal with personally but what I can't stand is racism from someone hiding behind a computer screen many miles away. I can deal with racism when I am Korea and think of the money. Then when I have a year or so under my belt I can look elsewhere if it really is getting to us. The fact remains that nowhere else seems to be offering the package that Korea is at the moment. |
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Troglodyte
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| The CELTA isn't going to be of ANY use to you here in Korea as far as getting a better salary. |
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brotherbillo
Joined: 08 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:31 am Post subject: Girlfriend visa problem |
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| Why are all of the people on this site rude and obnoxious? By the way, I am white. My girlfriend is black. Deal with it. |
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frankhenry
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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sesyeux
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:40 am Post subject: |
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i don't think everyones rude or obnoxious mate. all i've seen is people offering advice and the low down on what Kimmi's gonna think. s'up to you if you do/don't take it, you asked for help but to be honest it doesn't sound a common issue for many people here, you're better talking to the FCO first and seeing what you can do here before thinking of you guys in korea.
good luck. |
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maryjanes
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Location: Cheongju
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| Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Have you thought about Southern Africa (South Africa, Namibia, Botswana)? Fairly easy for a UK passport holder to get in and you could look at the options for your girlfiend and her child. Good luck, and get some professional advice. Try a local law clinic, CAB, immigration advisory charity etc in the UK - they should be able to set you straight. |
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