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Am I asking too much from agents?

 
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acrocs



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Am I asking too much from agents? Reply with quote

Just seeing if anyone else has had this problem.

I have sent about 10 emails to agents seeking a position in Korea, with only 1 replying. In my email, all I have asked for is a coastal area, the city can be any size, and a bit of creative freedom.

I have 2 years experience in korea already, 4 years in other countries.

I guess I could be asking too much, but I thought schools were crying out for teachers!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Am I asking too much from agents? Reply with quote

acrocs wrote:
I guess I could be asking too much, but I thought schools were crying out for teachers!


Not this year... with 10% unemployment rates in the US and UK AND student loans to worry about many US and UK recent and about to grad students are headed here.

Recruiters and all but the worst of schools have more than ample applications to look over. There is an EWHA hagwon in ULSAN that is looking for a teacher... 240 classes per month, 2 bedroom apartment, and 2.1 mil per month... with the usual lies about medical and pension.

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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a big increase of incoming applicants from USA etc, all the employers all over Korea are getting very picky, including EPIK and public schools.
No matter what your experience; if you fit the 'older' fatter' or less attractive group, or you are the 'wrong gender' that is not a young female with a North American accent, you may be out of luck with even getting a reply from a recruiter, especially so if they think you could be difficult to place or are expecting a salary over 2.1 million. EPIK jobs have driven salaries down, NOT UP in 2009.

I also know that someone with a previous 'left early' contract or a 'history' at a hagwon may not make the cut. EPIK definitely phones previous employers in Korea and a director is believed first, what ever the truth.
Be more direct in your approach and email again the recruiters you originally sent your resume to, to ask them to respond with a 'truthful' answer as to your chances.
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pangaea



Joined: 20 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kimnjoe recruits for Busan and may have positions available on Geoje Island. You might also try the yahoo group rhymeswithjeju and ask if anyone knows who to contact regarding a job on the island. I think there is a recruiter that specifically places on Jeju. You may also be able to get the email address for the EPIK contact on the island. I think her name is Ria.
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noobteacher



Joined: 27 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shane at Candian Connections is great and one of his major areas is Jeollandam which has a lot of coastal cities/islands where its harder to find teachers so may provide a little more teaching freedom than schools in larger cities. May be worth it to get in touch with him.
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Cayne



Joined: 14 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Post your resume here and a few other places. Respond to job ads here that sound like they might suit you. You'll get more attention than you'll know what to do with, and have recruiters calling you all hours of the freakin' night.

I thought things seemed kind of hopeless what with the glut of public school applicants and what not, but it's evidently not as bad as people are saying. If you put a little effort into it and stick with it, you can find a decent job.
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acrocs



Joined: 01 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for the information everyone. It seems the situation has changed a bit, last time I had agents calling me 5 minutes after I sent the email.

I am starting to find that applying directly to schools is resulting in more luck. And I will try some of those agents mentioned. I still would have thought that it would have been in the agents best interest to put forward as many names to companies as they could to increase their chances of filling the position.
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curlygirl



Joined: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Pundang, Seohyeon dong

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

acrocs wrote:

I still would have thought that it would have been in the agents best interest to put forward as many names to companies as they could to increase their chances of filling the position.


This couldn't be further from the truth I'm afraid. Once upon a time all it took to get hired (it seems) was a degree and a pulse. Now each school has a looooong list of stipulations with "female", "young", "pretty" and "North American" being right at the top. Schools tell recruiters flat out what they're after, which is why you see so many job advertisements posted by recruiters blatantly stating "no kyopos" etc. No recruiter is going to risk pissing of their potential commission giver by flooding them with resumes that don't match the employer's stipulations. That's how it works right now.
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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard that a fair number of the popular location public schools offering GEPIK positions are hiring direct and going direct to agents and saying.... " only send me an applicant who has this ..this .. and... this.... The schools would certainly be giving this instruction to many agents to cover all bases and to get a selection of ' perfect people'!

This would mean that the school would only look at perfect applicants and NOT a bulk lot or resumes. Also if the school asks 10 diferent agents to find a perfect person, and if the job is in Bundang, then they will get what they are looking for pretty quick. BUT if the job is in a more remote GEPIK area and no subway is close by then the school may accept the fist and best person put forward.
I can imagine there are a lot of desperate recruiters going door to door in Seoul right now trying to get 'their' applicants placed first.
Hagwons would have to be working the same way, especially if they are in popular Seoul or Busan locations.
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