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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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I know you meant it to be jestful, so sorry if I come across choked, I was just trying to point out that she doesnt practice what she preaches, and re inforcing my point that the English is hard to master and please everyone in its usuage, even for a grammar snob who should not be [b]equting [/b]mistakes with lack of intelligence lest she be judged under the same myopic judgement |
Seoulio. You're hilarious. Your writing sucks--go back to high school for Pete's sake. I hope you're pulling a fast one here because I don't read long comments unless they're really tight!  |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Yes my typing sucks, but again, like most intelligent people you understad what I am writing despite it.
No need to go back to high school, I, like many others, have 2 degrees ( English and Education) and despite the odd grammatical or spelling error ( be it from a typo or ignorance of an English rule) you pretty much understand what I am typing do you not.
Hell just look at the number of people on this thread alone, who not only understand everything I have written, but strongly disagree.
Yes, clearly I am not communicaying well enough, thanks for the tip. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Such is life NYC Gal. You pretty much missed the point I was making.
We oddly enough seem to agree on a few things so all is well.
By the way, the only reason I posted my qualifications was that you pretty much implied that I was not qualified in your previous post. I could have let that one slide but since you took the time to question my qualifications, I figured I would take the time to respond in kind.
As for the school we graduated from, I will put that down in the sarcasm category because I cannot believe you would actually wish to get in some silly my school is better than your school argument! 
Final point on spelling and grammar. I am not one to point out the spelling mistakes of others on an anonymous casual online forum. This is, in part, a forum for Teachers. This is also in large part a casual exchange forum. There are no academic standards on such a forum and for good reason.
I for one would not question a persons' qualifications based on spelling on an online forum. What that person says is a different beast however.....
I will focus on a few points in conclusion:
1- When I said full-time it seems to have sent you an odd message that screwed with your processing centre (ie your brain). Sorry to have expressed myself in a way that confused you.
So to be clear..
Korean Teachers in the PS system are Full-time, permanent (for the vast majority) career Teachers.
Foreign Teachers in the PS system are Full-time teaching assistants or co-teachers that are typically hired for a very specific portion of English education. Some schools use their Foreign Teachers more fully, many other do not. Foreign Teachers cannot according to their rules teach alone in a class at a PS but often do.
Both work full time hours (but often not as many hours for Foreign Staff nor as many duties).
Hope this clears it up.
2- We are in complete agreement about qualifications (who has them and who does not). I know many FTs prepare a lot and produce great ideas and lesson plans. My initial comments in no way said they did not but you seem to feel the need to defend something I never attacked. I must have written it in a way that made you feel you had to defend the work of Foreign Teachers.
3- Respect and qualifications. Respect is a funny thing and can be shown in many different ways. Respect in a work setting is often linked to work culture, work environment and other factors. I wonder (I may regret this question...) what you mean by treated with more respect?
4- Nice twist on the posting credentials...I am not the one who questioned your qualifications. You sure did question mine in your first response to my post. Thats not 101 anything. That is responding to someone questionning my qualifications openly and then going on to use that in response to a post I made. To be sure here is what you said: Perhaps you aren't qualified (as your spelling seems to imply) but many of us have certifications up the wazoo, not to mention loads of experience from back home.
5- To be clear, I do not proof read what I write here. I write the response or post, hit submit and am done with it. Sometimes this is done with limited time. I have no problem with that and it sure does not indicate anything about my proficiency or ability in English when it comes to my work...but still you can keep pointing out the mistakes if it floats your boat.
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1. I wasn't confused--you were using the term full time in an uncommon way--that's all. I was being sarcastic, as I've said. This is moot.
2. I just know a lot of foreign teachers that hate being lumped in with those who came for a year of slightly-respectable backpacking. That is all. That we (and many others) agree on this point, I'm fairly certain.
3. I'm shown a fair amount of respect, but there are some things that annoy the crap out of me (figuratively!) For instance, on Friday I had a coteacher that I usually get on with swimmingly come to my classroom as I was leaving at 4:40 to meet my friend at the gym, to tell me that she had some problems with the lesson I'd submitted to her 2 weeks prior. The lesson was really good, and she just didn't understand the procedure, so it worked out (after an hour and a half of explaining and going over and over the procedure), but I had to explain that she had had 2 weeks in which to discuss it with me, and that she was showing me a great deal of disrespect in waiting until AFTER work on Friday. I told her that I know that in Korea many things are done at the last minute, but I had shown her respect in giving her the work in advance, and I expected the same courtesy. I asked if she'd prefer if I gave her the materials the day of the class, with no time for her to review them. Busy busy busy! Anyone has time to send a text message, use that coolmessenger program that many of us use at school, or send a private email.
That and not being told that the next day is picture day, and being lucky enough to have worn a button down blouse and a bit of make-up that day. I'm sure I'm not the only one having experienced the joy of being in nice-but-not-formal clothes next to people dressed as though they are going to a wedding!
4. The 101 was based on your having said "just like qualifications up the wazoo would indicate (according to your logic) that you are emotionally unstable and possibly a tad over sensitive. I could also conclude that you are slightly paranoid and hyper sensitive because someone calling KT full time Teachers sends you in full ballistic mode to defend and justify your work...which by the way was never attacked..." Armchair psych. How is saying that it's wrong "unstable," "paranoid," and "ballistic"? As you rightly say: this is an online forum. Surely responding as I did is expected and quite normal.
5. I don't often point out mistakes. There were just many, and it struck a chord. I believe that people should pride themselves, but if you don't care, you're not alone! I apologize if I upset you <<bows>>
For the most part, I like Korea. I could probably do a year or so more, but would definitely be moving to HK or Taiwan in the not-too-distant future.
Best wishes! |
WOW!!! You can cook, you stay in shape, you hang out with celebrities, you were fielding hundreds of job offers before you even stepped on the plane, you throw in British English words just to add the extra little bit of wit and sophistication to your writing, you are SUPERTEACHER at work...... NYC girl is there anything you CAN'T DO?? P-PLEASE TELL ME!!! My heart can't take it ONE MORE MINUTE!!! |
I only hung out with a handful of celebs and CEOs outside of work, but I interacted with others daily, and made some great connections. Not hundreds of jobs, but enough to give me some nice options. I just needed a change for a bit, and already had some friends who were enjoying it here.
As for cooking, I was raised on typical American fare, so later on I embraced healthy living, and found that my mild OCD (which I'm sure you've noticed in my posts!) coupled with a love of preparing food made me a bit of a food snob. It's just easier when you live in a city with so many ethnically diverse cultures, as well as countless farmers' markets. I miss Union Square's market, and last fall I was pretty bummed, because I would have been loading up on goodies.
With keeping in shape--I try. Moving here has made it a tad difficult, with certain health foods very difficult to procure, so 5 kilo have mysteriously creeped onto my body (thankfully in flattering areas. *ahem*). I walk a lot, but not nearly as much as I did back home. I'm by no means a porker, though. Pilates and yoga are a Darwin-send.
I love teaching. I love helping shape future citizens with open minds. It's probably the mommy instinct, but I'd like to wait a few years on that! This is a nice alternative for the time being. I'd like to have my first few years of marriage to be sans kiddies.
My fiance's English. We've had some of our lexicons rub off on one another over the years. (That sounded naughty!) I also read a lot of classics in my formative years, so happened to pick up on certain phrasing that I prefered. I do spell in the American style, and do enjoy siding with Americans when arguing with my English friends, just to mess with them. Perhaps you've heard of how much New Yorkers love to argue? It's a form of amusement that others take far more seriously than we do. Oftentimes something that I post can come across sounding FAR nastier than it would to my fellow rude New Yorkers. Also, I can still slang it up American style with the best of them!
I can't do a cartwheel. I never had the need to learn to drive, being in NYC, and can't read in a moving vehicle (maps are out of the question,) therefore I am useless on road trips unless you count providing musical entertainment in the form of singing random annoying cartoon and video game theme songs from my youth |
1) Looked into the dictionary, cant find "celebs" perhaps you mean "celebrities" in which case youd want to put "celeb's" to show that you are missing some letters from the original word
2) in context "ethnically" and "cultures" together is redundant
3) Unless I am mistaken there need not be an apostrophe after Farmers ( markets) DOnt think we pluralise both of those. ( this one I Could be wrong about, as I said the English langauge is absurd)
4) How do you shape future citizens, do you use like a special mold? What shape to you make them?
5) Using to have and to be in the same sentence? Wouldnt the sentence read better as "I'd like to have my first few years of marriage sans kiddies."?
6) You capitalised "far" why are you yelling?
7) "Being in NYC" should be in brackets ( again a questionable call)
0 How do you sing a video game theme song? What with 99% of them being instrumentls and all. Do you perhaps want to use a modifier like "hum"
9) if you pride yourslef on your excellent writing then should you really be using slang at all in your writing? I mean please, we are english teachers, DO not use a word like "kiddies" we call them children
10) All new yorkers are rude? Thanks for that sweeping generalisation good to see you are being objective in your writing as well.
"It's a form of amusement that others take far more seriously than we do." - Yep because you dont take spelling and grammar more seriusly than others do, to the point of questioning our qualification if we dont adhere to your serious standards
Taking a page out of your own book miss grammar snob, I assume you will be a little more dilligent in your writing in the future. Clearly if you make more you are a bad teacher right?
I trust the point has been well made.
Good day |
1. Celebs is slang. Did you miss my having said that I can "slang it up American style" or are you just being douchey? Oh look! More slang!
2. It's unnecessary, redundant, gratuitous, and repetitive, but I like the sound of it, and it's still technically correct
3. Farmers market, farmers' market, farmer's market. They are all acceptable. I chose the one I like most.
4. I use a Jell-o mold in the shape of a fish.
5. It's a matter of style. I liked the sound of it, and it's grammatically correct.
6. I like changing it up between bold, italics, and CAPS. It's my magazine roots showing through.
7. Commas work just fine. I could have used an M-dash as well. I believe you mean parenthesis, by the way.
8. A voice is an instrument. Dududu dudu du du. Du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du du. Dee dee dee dee dee do do do do do do. Dee dee dee dee dee do do do. Dee dee dee dee dee do do do do do do. Do do do. (Super Mario )
9. English is a constantly changing language. Slang becomes part of the lexicon over time. I hardly think that saying kiddies or celebs is on par with writing "yourslef" even though I know that it was a typo. I'm just sayin'. Case in point: d'oh! is now in the OED.
http://www.oed.com/newsletters/2001-06/doh.html
10. Sarcasm, you tool.  From your spelling and use of the word brackets, I assume you are British or at least colonial, so you should be aware of this form of humor.
Teaching and being sarcastic have nothing to do with one another (unless you're a really great teacher) 
It's Ms Grammar Snob (Mrs in the summer), and I've proven that your thoughtful and insightful edits were full of 똥.
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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Hey Homer,
If you were going to compare schools, the last time I looked McGill was higher rated than New York University.
http://www.world-university-ranking.com/
(Though both are good schools.) |
Thanks Mr Pink...but comparing schools is not something I find very relevant. |
McGill is a GREAT school, and the more power to you. I just couldn't leave NYC at the time, so chose NYU and Colombia, though the majority of my studies were at NYU (better environment and networking in my industry, in my opinion). |
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PatrickGHBusan
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NYC....
McGill is a good school but I prefer to compare programs as opposed to schools. Some universties are better than others in specific fields yet this does not show in overal rankings. Some schools surf on these rankings but offer sub-par education in many disciplines. It is not as clear cut as a ranking. Just my two cents on that... |
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Seoulio
Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Yes I know DOH is now in the dictionary, I still doubt that anyone is going to accept it as a mainstream word, and I am pretty sure its still slang.
Again my standards are not the issue yours are, brackets, parenthesis, as you point out they are the same thing anyway no matter what specific name we give it.
We are all qualified teachers no matter if we write with perfect grammar or not.
My point is are you gong to accept it If I say that slang makes you sound uneducated so yo should stop using it, as it clearly shows you must be a terrible teacher
No you'd tel me to go pound sand. And unless I missed it you justified and defended your position, don't think you ever apologised for it though.
I like how for some reason you responded to this post though, but not the last time I responded to you.
So yes, you use slang, and thats okay, I use bad spelling and bad grammar as that is simply how I type when taking a break from teaching "where is namdaewun for the 8th freaking time in a row.
At the end of the day I am sure we are both excellent teachers, and our point is still understood by all. |
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goat
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
NYC....
McGill is a good school but I prefer to compare programs as opposed to schools. Some universties are better than others in specific fields yet this does not show in overal rankings. Some schools surf on these rankings but offer sub-par education in many disciplines. It is not as clear cut as a ranking. Just my two cents on that... |
I totally agree with you on this Pat. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:23 am Post subject: |
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Yes I know DOH is now in the dictionary, I still doubt that anyone is going to accept it as a mainstream word, and I am pretty sure its still slang.
Again my standards are not the issue yours are, brackets, parenthesis, as you point out they are the same thing anyway no matter what specific name we give it.
We are all qualified teachers no matter if we write with perfect grammar or not.
My point is are you gong to accept it If I say that slang makes you sound uneducated so yo should stop using it, as it clearly shows you must be a terrible teacher
No you'd tel me to go pound sand. And unless I missed it you justified and defended your position, don't think you ever apologised for it though.
I like how for some reason you responded to this post though, but not the last time I responded to you.
So yes, you use slang, and thats okay, I use bad spelling and bad grammar as that is simply how I type when taking a break from teaching "where is namdaewun for the 8th freaking time in a row.
At the end of the day I am sure we are both excellent teachers, and our point is still understood by all. |
The word "hurry" was a made-up gibberish word when Shakespeare wrote it down.
D'oh is in the OED. Get over yourself.
As for your post, I don't remember if I'd seen it or not, so it was either missed or I didn't care enough to comment. <<Shrugs>>
I'm not going to apologize for slang. My usage and spelling are correct, and I'm understood. It doesn't make me seem like a terrible teacher when I call the children kiddies, cuties, or whatever I choose. It's like adding ito or ita to a word in Spanish. It makes it cute. Again, get over yourself.
I just don't get how one "takes a break" from their language. It's your native tongue, for Pete's (and Tony's and Jinho's and Minsu's and Julie's) sake! |
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NYC_Gal
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NYC....
McGill is a good school but I prefer to compare programs as opposed to schools. Some universties are better than others in specific fields yet this does not show in overal rankings. Some schools surf on these rankings but offer sub-par education in many disciplines. It is not as clear cut as a ranking. Just my two cents on that... |
I totally agree with you on this Pat. |
Likewise. NYU and Colombia both had awesome publishing programs, but I chose the lesser of the two, rank-wise, for the majority of my studies because of the faculty: publishers, editors, and directors from some of the best publishing houses and magazines in NYC (which is publishing central). |
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Seoulio
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Yes I know DOH is now in the dictionary, I still doubt that anyone is going to accept it as a mainstream word, and I am pretty sure its still slang.
Again my standards are not the issue yours are, brackets, parenthesis, as you point out they are the same thing anyway no matter what specific name we give it.
We are all qualified teachers no matter if we write with perfect grammar or not.
My point is are you gong to accept it If I say that slang makes you sound uneducated so yo should stop using it, as it clearly shows you must be a terrible teacher
No you'd tel me to go pound sand. And unless I missed it you justified and defended your position, don't think you ever apologised for it though.
I like how for some reason you responded to this post though, but not the last time I responded to you.
So yes, you use slang, and thats okay, I use bad spelling and bad grammar as that is simply how I type when taking a break from teaching "where is namdaewun for the 8th freaking time in a row.
At the end of the day I am sure we are both excellent teachers, and our point is still understood by all. |
The word "hurry" was a made-up gibberish word when Shakespeare wrote it down.
D'oh is in the OED. Get over yourself.
As for your post, I don't remember if I'd seen it or not, so it was either missed or I didn't care enough to comment. <<Shrugs>>
I'm not going to apologize for slang. My usage and spelling are correct, and I'm understood. It doesn't make me seem like a terrible teacher when I call the children kiddies, cuties, or whatever I choose. It's like adding ito or ita to a word in Spanish. It makes it cute. Again, get over yourself.
I just don't get how one "takes a break" from their language. It's your native tongue, for Pete's (and Tony's and Jinho's and Minsu's and Julie's) sake! |
Wow, how you can consistently miss the point someone is trying to make is astounding.
Use all the slang you want to, what I said you may want to apologise for your is your completely ignorant remark that bad typing means we are unqualified teachers. As i said yo may have, perhaps I missed it. (shrugs)
Yes DOH is in the OED, I am sure you use it in regular conversation, so is a word like irregardless, yet irregardless is still qualified as the inferior form of regardless.
As for taking a break from Our lanaguage, its quite easy, it's called "type" and hit "submit"
You don't need to "get how" there are clearly a number of things you don't get, the point is saying we need to live up to your standards is quite ignorant, especially when you suggest we have lower intelligence or teaching abilities if we do not. |
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NYC_Gal
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I know DOH is now in the dictionary, I still doubt that anyone is going to accept it as a mainstream word, and I am pretty sure its still slang.
Again my standards are not the issue yours are, brackets, parenthesis, as you point out they are the same thing anyway no matter what specific name we give it.
We are all qualified teachers no matter if we write with perfect grammar or not.
My point is are you gong to accept it If I say that slang makes you sound uneducated so yo should stop using it, as it clearly shows you must be a terrible teacher
No you'd tel me to go pound sand. And unless I missed it you justified and defended your position, don't think you ever apologised for it though.
I like how for some reason you responded to this post though, but not the last time I responded to you.
So yes, you use slang, and thats okay, I use bad spelling and bad grammar as that is simply how I type when taking a break from teaching "where is namdaewun for the 8th freaking time in a row.
At the end of the day I am sure we are both excellent teachers, and our point is still understood by all. |
The word "hurry" was a made-up gibberish word when Shakespeare wrote it down.
D'oh is in the OED. Get over yourself.
As for your post, I don't remember if I'd seen it or not, so it was either missed or I didn't care enough to comment. <<Shrugs>>
I'm not going to apologize for slang. My usage and spelling are correct, and I'm understood. It doesn't make me seem like a terrible teacher when I call the children kiddies, cuties, or whatever I choose. It's like adding ito or ita to a word in Spanish. It makes it cute. Again, get over yourself.
I just don't get how one "takes a break" from their language. It's your native tongue, for Pete's (and Tony's and Jinho's and Minsu's and Julie's) sake! |
Wow, how you can consistently miss the point someone is trying to make is astounding.
Use all the slang you want to, what I said you may want to apologise for your is your completely ignorant remark that bad typing means we are unqualified teachers. As i said yo may have, perhaps I missed it. (shrugs)
Yes DOH is in the OED, I am sure you use it in regular conversation, so is a word like irregardless, yet irregardless is still qualified as the inferior form of regardless.
As for taking a break from Our lanaguage, its quite easy, it's called "type" and hit "submit"
You don't need to "get how" there are clearly a number of things you don't get, the point is saying we need to live up to your standards is quite ignorant, especially when you suggest we have lower intelligence or teaching abilities if we do not. |
I apologized to Patrick, as he's a cool guy, but you are clearly a troll, and deserve no such treatment. I never use d'oh, but was illustrating a point.
As for taking a break, that's ridiculous. As I said, this is not a mobile keypad, but a full keyboard. Occasional errors are fine, but when they are consistent, it reflects badly on the author. There are far too many lazy writers out there, and you seem to be more than happy to join their ranks. Enjoy yourself.
These aren't my standards, they are industry standard. But, feel free to "relax" and lapse into cell-phone-speak anytime you like. U R MRE THN WLCME 2.
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Seoulio
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God I am sick of the ignorant morons saying I am a troll
I make posts I engage n coversation and I am a troll? If I am not stuck with that label I am called an apologist for actually taking my job seriously.
You are a grammar snob pure and simple, and oh goodie, you apologised to Patrick, yeah because I couldn't take offense when your ignorant guidlines basically dictate that I am a bad teacher as well.
So you go ahead and preach to us that you are so much better and so much smarter, yeah you are an awesome teacher because you can type and those who dont feel the need to not put our best prose on a lax forum are ignorant morons who don't know how to teach.
You go ahead and be an ignorant stickler, you clearly enjoy the high horse that you sit on.
As I said, you dont have to "get it" but there are many of us who couldn't care less about being grammatically perfect when engaging is simple conversation/debate on an open forum, and when you pick on the presenetation and not the content you are being petty, and when you equate laziness on editing with a lack of education or teaching ability you are being ignorant.
Good day
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mj roach
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Satchel Paige
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Such is life NYC Gal. You pretty much missed the point I was making.
We oddly enough seem to agree on a few things so all is well.
By the way, the only reason I posted my qualifications was that you pretty much implied that I was not qualified in your previous post. I could have let that one slide but since you took the time to question my qualifications, I figured I would take the time to respond in kind.
As for the school we graduated from, I will put that down in the sarcasm category because I cannot believe you would actually wish to get in some silly my school is better than your school argument!
Final point on spelling and grammar. I am not one to point out the spelling mistakes of others on an anonymous casual online forum. This is, in part, a forum for Teachers. This is also in large part a casual exchange forum. There are no academic standards on such a forum and for good reason.
I for one would not question a persons' qualifications based on spelling on an online forum. What that person says is a different beast however.....
I will focus on a few points in conclusion:
1- When I said full-time it seems to have sent you an odd message that screwed with your processing centre (ie your brain). Sorry to have expressed myself in a way that confused you.
So to be clear..
Korean Teachers in the PS system are Full-time, permanent (for the vast majority) career Teachers.
Foreign Teachers in the PS system are Full-time teaching assistants or co-teachers that are typically hired for a very specific portion of English education. Some schools use their Foreign Teachers more fully, many other do not. Foreign Teachers cannot according to their rules teach alone in a class at a PS but often do.
Both work full time hours (but often not as many hours for Foreign Staff nor as many duties).
Hope this clears it up.
2- We are in complete agreement about qualifications (who has them and who does not). I know many FTs prepare a lot and produce great ideas and lesson plans. My initial comments in no way said they did not but you seem to feel the need to defend something I never attacked. I must have written it in a way that made you feel you had to defend the work of Foreign Teachers.
3- Respect and qualifications. Respect is a funny thing and can be shown in many different ways. Respect in a work setting is often linked to work culture, work environment and other factors. I wonder (I may regret this question...) what you mean by treated with more respect?
4- Nice twist on the posting credentials...I am not the one who questioned your qualifications. You sure did question mine in your first response to my post. Thats not 101 anything. That is responding to someone questionning my qualifications openly and then going on to use that in response to a post I made. To be sure here is what you said: Perhaps you aren't qualified (as your spelling seems to imply) but many of us have certifications up the wazoo, not to mention loads of experience from back home.
5- To be clear, I do not proof read what I write here. I write the response or post, hit submit and am done with it. Sometimes this is done with limited time. I have no problem with that and it sure does not indicate anything about my proficiency or ability in English when it comes to my work...but still you can keep pointing out the mistakes if it floats your boat.
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1. I wasn't confused--you were using the term full time in an uncommon way--that's all. I was being sarcastic, as I've said. This is moot.
2. I just know a lot of foreign teachers that hate being lumped in with those who came for a year of slightly-respectable backpacking. That is all. That we (and many others) agree on this point, I'm fairly certain.
3. I'm shown a fair amount of respect, but there are some things that annoy the crap out of me (figuratively!) For instance, on Friday I had a coteacher that I usually get on with swimmingly come to my classroom as I was leaving at 4:40 to meet my friend at the gym, to tell me that she had some problems with the lesson I'd submitted to her 2 weeks prior. The lesson was really good, and she just didn't understand the procedure, so it worked out (after an hour and a half of explaining and going over and over the procedure), but I had to explain that she had had 2 weeks in which to discuss it with me, and that she was showing me a great deal of disrespect in waiting until AFTER work on Friday. I told her that I know that in Korea many things are done at the last minute, but I had shown her respect in giving her the work in advance, and I expected the same courtesy. I asked if she'd prefer if I gave her the materials the day of the class, with no time for her to review them. Busy busy busy! Anyone has time to send a text message, use that coolmessenger program that many of us use at school, or send a private email.
That and not being told that the next day is picture day, and being lucky enough to have worn a button down blouse and a bit of make-up that day. I'm sure I'm not the only one having experienced the joy of being in nice-but-not-formal clothes next to people dressed as though they are going to a wedding!
4. The 101 was based on your having said "just like qualifications up the wazoo would indicate (according to your logic) that you are emotionally unstable and possibly a tad over sensitive. I could also conclude that you are slightly paranoid and hyper sensitive because someone calling KT full time Teachers sends you in full ballistic mode to defend and justify your work...which by the way was never attacked..." Armchair psych. How is saying that it's wrong "unstable," "paranoid," and "ballistic"? As you rightly say: this is an online forum. Surely responding as I did is expected and quite normal.
5. I don't often point out mistakes. There were just many, and it struck a chord. I believe that people should pride themselves, but if you don't care, you're not alone! I apologize if I upset you <<bows>>
For the most part, I like Korea. I could probably do a year or so more, but would definitely be moving to HK or Taiwan in the not-too-distant future.
Best wishes! |
WOW!!! You can cook, you stay in shape, you hang out with celebrities, you were fielding hundreds of job offers before you even stepped on the plane, you throw in British English words just to add the extra little bit of wit and sophistication to your writing, you are SUPERTEACHER at work...... NYC girl is there anything you CAN'T DO?? P-PLEASE TELL ME!!! My heart can't take it ONE MORE MINUTE!!! |
I only hung out with a handful of celebs and CEOs outside of work, but I interacted with others daily, and made some great connections. Not hundreds of jobs, but enough to give me some nice options. I just needed a change for a bit, and already had some friends who were enjoying it here.
As for cooking, I was raised on typical American fare, so later on I embraced healthy living, and found that my mild OCD (which I'm sure you've noticed in my posts!) coupled with a love of preparing food made me a bit of a food snob. It's just easier when you live in a city with so many ethnically diverse cultures, as well as countless farmers' markets. I miss Union Square's market, and last fall I was pretty bummed, because I would have been loading up on goodies.
With keeping in shape--I try. Moving here has made it a tad difficult, with certain health foods very difficult to procure, so 5 kilo have mysteriously creeped onto my body (thankfully in flattering areas. *ahem*). I walk a lot, but not nearly as much as I did back home. I'm by no means a porker, though. Pilates and yoga are a Darwin-send.
I love teaching. I love helping shape future citizens with open minds. It's probably the mommy instinct, but I'd like to wait a few years on that! This is a nice alternative for the time being. I'd like to have my first few years of marriage to be sans kiddies.
My fiance's English. We've had some of our lexicons rub off on one another over the years. (That sounded naughty!) I also read a lot of classics in my formative years, so happened to pick up on certain phrasing that I prefered. I do spell in the American style, and do enjoy siding with Americans when arguing with my English friends, just to mess with them. Perhaps you've heard of how much New Yorkers love to argue? It's a form of amusement that others take far more seriously than we do. Oftentimes something that I post can come across sounding FAR nastier than it would to my fellow rude New Yorkers. Also, I can still slang it up American style with the best of them!
I can't do a cartwheel. I never had the need to learn to drive, being in NYC, and can't read in a moving vehicle (maps are out of the question,) therefore I am useless on road trips unless you count providing musical entertainment in the form of singing random annoying cartoon and video game theme songs from my youth |
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That is you imposing your beleifs for standards on other NYC Gal. I am teacher and I am a damn good one, but half the time my spelling isnt good for a damn. There no many dropping of letters, adding in an extra one, there is often no rule for how to say certain combinations of vowels. epople will correct yo that saying "I am well" is okay, and "I am good" is not.
I have an english degree, and an education degree, and I feel no shame whatsoever in the fact that half the time My spelling is terrible, if the English Langauge wasnt such a stupid, patchwork make it up as you go, every person wants to see how they can screw with it Langauge, and someone had said hundreds of years ago " can we make this a little bit more sensical" then perhaps more people would be better at the language.
Its pretty much why Koreans are basically fluent readers by Kindergarten and we need about 5 years to figure out what the heck we are reading.
Just look at the letters "ough" there are ELEVEN distinct and different ways to say thee letters in various words ( granted 2 of them have been replaced in the last 100 years to spellings that actually make sense)
Then you have these idots who want to spell "Jennifer" as "Genniphur" Or have the name Siobahn be pronounced "Sha von"
I actually have a 10 lesson plan highlighting the stupidity of the English lanagage which if it wasnt for the immense power of England in the late 15th Century, through to the power of the Commonwealth and The America's today, it never would have become as prevalent as it is today.
So forgive some of us if when we come on here to discuss ( and in a way take a break from teaching) we ignore some of the tradtional conventions like spelling and perfect sentence structure to appease others.
I am sure there are a number of errors in this post, yet I am sure you understood every point I made despite them, and guess what, I am still a damn fine teacher who knows what I am doing in the classroom. I would imagine you and Patrick are too. |
I apologize profusely if I've offended you, but I get annoyed when people who are supposed to be fluent in a language can't spell. I never relax when it comes to communication. It's our first language, for Darwin's sake! Take pride in what you write, because to many it seems ignorant. Also, I did not just call you ignorant. I said it seems ignorant. I'm sure that most of the people here are very intelligent. I just wish more people would care a bit more. This isn't a quick text message asking "where r u" but a forum for teachers.
Anyway, again, sorry to have insulted you. Just please stop disparaging our language. It isn't stupid. It's just complex. I think that the complexities make it beautiful! |
I just read back to see about this post I supposedly ignored. So I never apologized? You're an IDIOT and I take it back. Apology retracted. |
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