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Gal
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 Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:44 pm Post subject: Uni. teachers - do you introduce yourself as a 'professor'? |
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I know a guy who works for a two-bit university in Korea. He has an undergraduate degree, but insists on telling other Westerners that he's a 'professor'. Am I alone in thinking he's deluded? He even boasts back home about his professor status, when people there know that you need a PHD to be a professor.
Are these people nuts? |
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Mikejelai
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| none of my law school profs had a phd (but all had JD's) |
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FMPJ
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| JD is considered a terminal professional degree, in the US, at least. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Uni. teachers - do you introduce yourself as a 'professo |
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| Gal wrote: |
I know a guy who works for a two-bit university in Korea. He has an undergraduate degree, but insists on telling other Westerners that he's a 'professor'. Am I alone in thinking he's deluded? He even boasts back home about his professor status, when people there know that you need a PHD to be a professor.
Are these people nuts? |
He is not a professor, he is a university lecturer.
Calling a turnip a rose doesn't make it so.
You can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear. |
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salgichawa
Joined: 18 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:41 am Post subject: Re: Uni. teachers - do you introduce yourself as a 'professo |
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| Gal wrote: |
I know a guy who works for a two-bit university in Korea. He has an undergraduate degree, but insists on telling other Westerners that he's a 'professor'. Am I alone in thinking he's deluded? He even boasts back home about his professor status, when people there know that you need a PHD to be a professor.
Are these people nuts? |
Hi There.
I was informed I was a professor, and my contract said 'visiting professor'...more as a title of association with the university then anything.
If you sign on a contract as 'visiting professor' as I did well that becomes your title but it doesn't make you one.
Maybe someone should bring it to their attention. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Uni. teachers - do you introduce yourself as a 'professo |
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| Gal wrote: |
I know a guy who works for a two-bit university in Korea. He has an undergraduate degree, but insists on telling other Westerners that he's a 'professor'. Am I alone in thinking he's deluded? He even boasts back home about his professor status, when people there know that you need a PHD to be a professor.
Are these people nuts? |
Hi There.
I was informed I was a professor, and my contract said 'visiting professor'...more as a title of association with the university then anything.
If you sign on a contract as 'visiting professor' as I did well that becomes your title but it doesn't make you one.
Maybe someone should bring it to their attention. |
Look at the visa...
E1 - visiting professor.
E2 - teachers of foreign language - lecturer.
A misnomer is a misnomer.
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:11 am Post subject: |
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| The university calls me an Associate Professor. I say I'm a Teacher. As long as I get my four months plus paid vacation, I don't give a crap what anyone calls me. |
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Olivencia
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:12 am Post subject: |
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| This is Korea. It doesn't mater. Just say whatever makes you look best. |
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makemischief
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: Traveling
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:20 am Post subject: |
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| E1 or not: with no JD or PhD I always correct my students when they call me professor. It just doesn't feel right. |
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Confused Canadian
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| I refer to myself as an English instructor. |
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definitely maybe
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| I insist that my students call me by my first name. |
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livinginkorea
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| definitely maybe wrote: |
| I insist that my students call me by my first name. |
Advocate of cultural imperialism? |
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Scotticus
Joined: 18 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| My visa says 교수, so I don't argue if people call me a professor. Generally I just stick to the Korean word as, I guess, it's more accurate. |
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bigtexas
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| The university calls me an Associate Professor. I say I'm a Teacher. As long as I get my four months plus paid vacation, I don't give a crap what anyone calls me. |
+1
We work at the same university.....Maybe you can figure out who I am by my screen name.
I sense some jealousy in the OP.....???being called 교주 is fun, but I in no way think it coincides with what the word means in the American sense. This is Korea, so I enjoy the perks that the job gives me. 12 hours a week with one day off is not too bad either. |
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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Uni. teachers - do you introduce yourself as a 'professo |
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| ttompatz wrote: |
| salgichawa wrote: |
| Gal wrote: |
I know a guy who works for a two-bit university in Korea. He has an undergraduate degree, but insists on telling other Westerners that he's a 'professor'. Am I alone in thinking he's deluded? He even boasts back home about his professor status, when people there know that you need a PHD to be a professor.
Are these people nuts? |
Hi There.
I was informed I was a professor, and my contract said 'visiting professor'...more as a title of association with the university then anything.
If you sign on a contract as 'visiting professor' as I did well that becomes your title but it doesn't make you one.
Maybe someone should bring it to their attention. |
Look at the visa...
E1 - visiting professor.
E2 - teachers of foreign language - lecturer.
A misnomer is a misnomer.
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I agree with you somewhat, but your distinction doesn't cover those on F visas, and actually doesn't mean much at all anyway. My title is "Department of English & Tourism Professor". That is the title my college has bestowed upon me. Are they fools for doing so? Maybe. However, if I have met the hiring requirements of this school, why should I not be allowed to take the title that goes with it? Do I consider myself as a "professor" in the same way as it is interpreted back home? No. Then again, I would hope not, as most of those "professors" could not teach an English conversation class. They lecture and do research. Big deal. I have lots of experience in those areas as well. As others have said of themselves, I am more than satisfied in having my students calling me either by my first name or as "teacher". Yet, I am not ashamed in passing my business card to the occasional individual who asks for it. |
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