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Tundra_Creature
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Who doesn't? |
ewww, then I must have been given the wrong message saying that only teenage girls like girls and boys groups.
How silly I am  |
you WERE given the wrong message.
it's pre-teen girls. At best, very very early teens. |
Actually its more like 5 year-olds to 16 year-olds depending on the boy/ girl group.  And depending on the kid as well. |
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Girls Generation and Wondergirls are okay. I mean look at what's popular stateside now. That turd Ke$ha and her STDs. Beyonce. Clowns like T-Pain and Flo-Rida. It's pathetic. K-Pop isn't great, but it's a damn sight better than modern American pop.
Girls Generation are hot. Beyonces legs look like a pair of California redwoods and she doesn't even have hair. Ke$ha has green slime oozing out of her vaginal warts.
G-Dragon looks like a girl. Eminem's still selling us his identity crisis and he looks kind of like a girl too.
I expect modern-day pop music to suck, but in Korea I can tolerate it easily. I can't deal with the garbage that's popular back home right now. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| BaldTeacher wrote: |
| Girls Generation and Wondergirls are okay. I mean look at what's popular stateside now. That turd Ke$ha and her STDs. Beyonce. Clowns like T-Pain and Flo-Rida. It's pathetic. K-Pop isn't great, but it's a damn sight better than modern American pop. |
American "pop" doesn't really exist beyond Ne-yo.
but nothing anywhere can touch Ne-yo, and most of the good stuff sung by the likes of Beyonce and Rihanna was written by Ne-yo.
K songwriting still can't come close to US standards, though this may be a matter of taste, as a lot of K stuff is written by European writers and European pop is almost as big an abortion.
look at this piece of utter crap for e.g.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY&feature=grec&playnext_from=TL&videos=a6WsrO1TmJY&playnext=1
I have found a Korean pop song I kinda like though.
Seo In Young - Cinderella
great beat - very little cutesy stupid crap. They can remix this into a very good club dance song. I don't particularly care for her, or her bad nose job but I still like the song.
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BaldTeacher
Joined: 02 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:19 am Post subject: |
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In terms of the average, the average K-pop song is something that I can just tune out. If I hear Ke$ha on the radio, I can't. It's that bad.
Also, if K-pop's on TV, I can at least enjoy it visually if it's a girl group singing. If Kesha's on TV my *beep* starts hurting. |
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Cerberus
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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what do you think of this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-lQ5KtVUyo&feature=related
like I said..a club 12' remix would be great
that lollipop song isn't actually that bad an abortion but when you start with people singing.. Lolly lolly lolly..
it's a pull the trigger moment. (with gun pointed at your own head)
I've decided I also like this - epik high - flow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bxk6CX2z-o
korean rap that actually has somewhat of an "edge" |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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korean rap that actually has somewhat of an "edge" |
What do they have to rap about? Someone stealing their kimbap?
I have no problem anyone rapping if they're decent, but some of these Korean rap grups that try to give off that 'hard/gangster' image are hilarious!
On the other hand, I have no problem with Chiddy Bang: two rich kid rappers who don't try to come off as anything but. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McRgkE_vgjU |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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I did see a Korean girl in a salsa club here though, who COULD move and even had a bubble butt/curves on her. I was in serious shock AND awe 
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Aah. My gf used to have a bubble butt.
She lost it. 
There is a woman at my church with the hips I salivate for. But she isn't my gf. AIGOO |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:26 am Post subject: |
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| I think it was a big play on the Dreamgirls revival thing that hit in 2006. Keep in mind that while it is their flagship song now, "Tell Me" and "Hot" were massive hits of their own right, possibly bigger hits domestically years before they took on the Motown look for "Nobody." |
well not "years", right"?
more like months.
certainly no more than a year. |
Tell Me was released in late 2006, I believe. Hot came on the heels, mid 2007. Nobody wasn't released as a single until late 2008, and the English version didn't come out until last year. I was teaching middle school at the time...trust me on this one. |
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Cerberus
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| I think it was a big play on the Dreamgirls revival thing that hit in 2006. Keep in mind that while it is their flagship song now, "Tell Me" and "Hot" were massive hits of their own right, possibly bigger hits domestically years before they took on the Motown look for "Nobody." |
well not "years", right"?
more like months.
certainly no more than a year. |
Tell Me was released in late 2006, I believe. Hot came on the heels, mid 2007. Nobody wasn't released as a single until late 2008, and the English version didn't come out until last year. I was teaching middle school at the time...trust me on this one. |
I will. I simply remember coming here in 2008, and Hot was the "hot" Wonders Girls song at the moment (I never caught Tell Me faver, which is good since I absolutely despise that song)..
and yeah, Nobody I started hearing non stop in late 2008. I didn't even know (or care actually) that they came out with an "English-ee" version. |
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Panda
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:25 am Post subject: |
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This is incredible, maybe she will be recruited into a girls group sooooooooon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeXQML_paIg
Although I highly doubt the entire song was played by her. |
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jvalmer
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| seoulsucker wrote: |
| Cerberus wrote: |
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| I think it was a big play on the Dreamgirls revival thing that hit in 2006. Keep in mind that while it is their flagship song now, "Tell Me" and "Hot" were massive hits of their own right, possibly bigger hits domestically years before they took on the Motown look for "Nobody." |
well not "years", right"?
more like months.
certainly no more than a year. |
Tell Me was released in late 2006, I believe. Hot came on the heels, mid 2007. Nobody wasn't released as a single until late 2008, and the English version didn't come out until last year. I was teaching middle school at the time...trust me on this one. |
I think you're a year off. 'Tell Me' came out in fall of 2007. 'So Hot' in mid-2008. 'Nobody' in early 2009, the one with JYP running out of toilet paper. |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey...when you're going to copy...copy from the best! I'd like to see koreans be original. |
As best as I can tell it seems that Koreans don't exactly regard music as a vehicle for creativity and expression, more as something to be listened to and enjoyed for the moods it produces, of course this is true with every music listener, but Koreans are more on the 'mood' side than creativity or making a political point.
Same with TV, it seems Korean TV is more about familiarity with the characters.
Korean film comes across as more creative and original.
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| Actually its more like 5 year-olds to 16 year-olds depending on the boy/ girl group. And depending on the kid as well. |
I hear this thrown out a lot that the market for K-Pop is adolescent teens. As far as I can tell amongst Koreans anyone who is under 35 enjoys K-Pop and some older Koreans as well. Basically if you grew up listening to Seo Ta Ji, R.ef, Roo'Ra, H.O.T., Jinusean, etc. then you are into K-Pop. Considering that K-Pop started in 1992 and blossomed around 95-98 anyone who was a young adult or younger during that time probably was into K-Pop and still enjoys K-Pop music to this day.
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| What do they have to rap about? Someone stealing their kimbap? |
What's weird is who likes rap here. I've seen 40-50 year old ajummas and ajosshies blasting rap out of their car stereo/cell phone and seemingly enjoying it. |
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Tundra_Creature
Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Actually its more like 5 year-olds to 16 year-olds depending on the boy/ girl group. And depending on the kid as well. |
I hear this thrown out a lot that the market for K-Pop is adolescent teens. As far as I can tell amongst Koreans anyone who is under 35 enjoys K-Pop and some older Koreans as well. Basically if you grew up listening to Seo Ta Ji, R.ef, Roo'Ra, H.O.T., Jinusean, etc. then you are into K-Pop. Considering that K-Pop started in 1992 and blossomed around 95-98 anyone who was a young adult or younger during that time probably was into K-Pop and still enjoys K-Pop music to this day.
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Actually, I wasn't really regarding that to Korea specifically. I meant more for boy/girl bands in North America in the past recent years. The ones you paticularly see on the Disney channel. Since someone above was stating that "only teenage girls like girls and boys groups", I was kinda assuming they meant by a NA (or European) standard. You know, like the Jonas Brothers and those folks.
I had recently watching this thing on youtube about a 3-year-old who wanted to marry this new popular teen these days in North America, which is where that statement more or less came from.
I enjoy quite a bit of Kpop/Jpop/any pop personally. You'll see me singing to Wonder Girls, and Brown-Eyed-Girls no problem. (I do have a problem with that song by T ara though. The Bo-peep song was too much).
Also recently got into Cherry Filter. Don't care much for the screamo rock songs, but the other stuff is pretty good. |
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seoulsucker
Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: The Land of the Hesitant Cutoff
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| Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think you're a year off. 'Tell Me' came out in fall of 2007. 'So Hot' in mid-2008. 'Nobody' in early 2009, the one with JYP running out of toilet paper. |
I can't believe we're having this discussion. |
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BaldTeacher
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