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F4 visa - worth getting??
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cherrytree3003



Joined: 23 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:20 am    Post subject: F4 visa - worth getting?? Reply with quote

Hello!

I'm from the UK and looking to move to South Korea to teach for one year at the end of June. I'm eligible for the F4 visa and, having read several threads on this forum and other websites, I'm kind of at a loss as to what the tangible benefits of this visa are over the E2. I've read that 'it is like having dual nationality' but what will this actually boil down to once I am there? As I only intend to be in South Korea for 1 year anyway - should I just apply for the E2 visa? It's just that the F4 visa process seems a lot more complicated and time-consuming compared with the E2....maybe I've got it wrong!!! Any tips from anyone who knows the process from the UK would be appreciated Very Happy
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it's worth it. It's a 3 year visa and indefinitely renewable. It allows you to work virtually any white-collar job.

Do you have any relative in Korea? Are you male or females?
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most people describe it as pretty easy to get as long as your korean ancestry isn't in question. less paperwork than the E2. It also gives you a lot of freedom if you get into a job that you don't particularly like. You can simply walk away and find another one.
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DHC



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The F-4 is also convertible to F-2 then F-5. If you intend to remain in Korea for any length of time it is definitely in your best interest to obtain the F-4.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Yes, it's worth it. It's a 3 year visa and indefinitely renewable.


3 year? you sure?
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Yes, it's worth it. It's a 3 year visa and indefinitely renewable.


3 year? you sure?


I believe someone mentioned before in another thread. Apparently since last year they've been given F-4's 3 years now. Wonder why they just don't make it a permanent visa? And revoke a persons visa when needed. It's not like their ethnicity will change.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DHC wrote:
The F-4 is also convertible to F-2 then F-5. If you intend to remain in Korea for any length of time it is definitely in your best interest to obtain the F-4.


huh?
I've never heard that. Why would the F4 be convertible to an F2? It offers no benefit. I've asked a couple gyopos before and they've all said they can't change to an F5. You've already got basically permanent residence with an F4 as renewing is apparently a breeze.
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Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Yes, it's worth it. It's a 3 year visa and indefinitely renewable.


3 year? you sure?


I believe someone mentioned before in another thread. Apparently since last year they've been given F-4's 3 years now. Wonder why they just don't make it a permanent visa? And revoke a persons visa when needed. It's not like their ethnicity will change.


Ah, that's the first I've heard of it.
crossmr wrote:
DHC wrote:
The F-4 is also convertible to F-2 then F-5. If you intend to remain in Korea for any length of time it is definitely in your best interest to obtain the F-4.


huh?
I've never heard that. Why would the F4 be convertible to an F2? It offers no benefit. I've asked a couple gyopos before and they've all said they can't change to an F5. You've already got basically permanent residence with an F4 as renewing is apparently a breeze.


Yeah, I've never heard of people switching from an F4 to an F2.
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Murakano



Joined: 10 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Corea wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Captain Corea wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
Yes, it's worth it. It's a 3 year visa and indefinitely renewable.


3 year? you sure?


I believe someone mentioned before in another thread. Apparently since last year they've been given F-4's 3 years now. Wonder why they just don't make it a permanent visa? And revoke a persons visa when needed. It's not like their ethnicity will change.


Ah, that's the first I've heard of it.


I can also confirm it's now 3 years. Make sure your name isn't on the family register (if you're a guy) or you will be drafted for military service.
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red_devil



Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It used to be 2 years renewable indefinitely, now it's 3 years.

F4 visa gives you all the rights as a Korean citizen except eligibility to vote in Korean elections which they are in the middle of changing to allow.

Renewing a F4 is as simple as going to immigration, getting a new stamp and paying the fee. You can renew within 1 month of expiration.
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skim234



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If any more confirmation were needed, my F4 lasts for 3 years from when I got it Oct 2009.

It is DEFINITELY worth it. It's a bit of a hassle since I had to get my father to go to the Korean Embassy in the US to fill out documents, but in the end it was all worth it.

I'm teaching right now but I want to maybe find a "real" long-term job here, and that's really only possible thanks to the F4.
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DHC



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

crossmr wrote:
DHC wrote:
The F-4 is also convertible to F-2 then F-5. If you intend to remain in Korea for any length of time it is definitely in your best interest to obtain the F-4.


huh?
I've never heard that. Why would the F4 be convertible to an F2? It offers no benefit. I've asked a couple gyopos before and they've all said they can't change to an F5. You've already got basically permanent residence with an F4 as renewing is apparently a breeze.


The F-5 is a benefit because it is not renewable at the discretion of Immigration like other visas including the F-4.
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crossmr



Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DHC wrote:


The F-5 is a benefit because it is not renewable at the discretion of Immigration like other visas including the F-4.
That still doesn't change the fact that no gyopo I've talked to has ever said they can change it to an F2 or F5. They've always said the opposite, there is no changing it to either of those. That is going to need a citation.
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nicmunny



Joined: 02 Jan 2010
Location: Jangyu, Gimhae, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As others have said, the F4 is definitely worth it.

I my husband's case it wasn't difficult at all to obtain either. The only things that may be an issue is getting your family registry... once you have that though, it is a breeze. We sent for his on a Thursday and received the following Tuesday.

And yes, it is three years.

And lastly, it is superior to the E2 because it is not tied to your job at all.

Good luck.
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cherrytree3003



Joined: 23 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everybody for your responses - I think I'm going to go ahead and apply for the F4. I spoke to my mum (who is Korean and now a British citizen) and she says she has all the documentation (she thinks), so hopefully the visa application will be painless.
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