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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: front loading washers Reply with quote

i feel like my TROMM front loader is completely useless at getting the clothes clean unless i use the drier function.

they come out linty and even minor stains don't wash out.

i mean, the drier's nice, but it takes like 3 hours. am i doing something wrong?
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: front loading washers Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
i feel like my TROMM front loader is completely useless at getting the clothes clean unless i use the drier function.

they come out linty and even minor stains don't wash out.

i mean, the drier's nice, but it takes like 3 hours. am i doing something wrong?


Only N.Americans and poor Koreans use top loaders.

You are probably using your machine wrong. Read the instructions or stain your clothes with less stainable stuff.

Welcome to the front-loading future.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: front loading washers Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
reactionary wrote:
i feel like my TROMM front loader is completely useless at getting the clothes clean unless i use the drier function.

they come out linty and even minor stains don't wash out.

i mean, the drier's nice, but it takes like 3 hours. am i doing something wrong?


Only N.Americans and poor Koreans use top loaders.

You are probably using your machine wrong. Read the instructions or stain your clothes with less stainable stuff.

Welcome to the front-loading future.


really? a top loading washer + dryer combo in N America beats anything I've used in Asia.

Anyway, of my washers in Asia, 3 have been toplaoders (1 was in Japan, I guess that's another group you can add to your list) and 2 have been front loaders. this is the first that hasn't washed my clothes adequately. and there is ZERO lint removal unless using the VERY inefficient dryer function.

Long live the future.

Btw - WHAT instructions? it's not like i installed this thing myself.
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jk3587



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TROMM dry function does in fact take quite awhile (2-3hours)

Also be sure to use the TROMM specific detergent (and if possible, the extra-strength detergent).

As for the lint issue, I'm not quite sure myself. My TROMM washer used to give me quite a bit of lint, bit I decreased the load sizes (I also almost nearly always use the machine's dry function) and noticed the lint disappeared. (Also do note that the max wash load size and the max dry load size are not the same-- you can wash more than the machine can dry).

And for my personal experience... I've always had the best results from separate washing and drying machines.
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: front loading washers Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
reactionary wrote:
i feel like my TROMM front loader is completely useless at getting the clothes clean unless i use the drier function.

they come out linty and even minor stains don't wash out.

i mean, the drier's nice, but it takes like 3 hours. am i doing something wrong?


Only N.Americans and poor Koreans use top loaders.

You are probably using your machine wrong. Read the instructions or stain your clothes with less stainable stuff.

Welcome to the front-loading future.


Most people in NZ use top loaders, it's got nothing to do with money it's about space.

As far as I know washer dryer combos never work as well as individual units.
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PatrickGHBusan



Joined: 24 Jun 2008
Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP: do you use detergent that is made for He (High efficiency)machines and use the proper water temperature setting for the detergent?
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pkang0202



Joined: 09 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Top load washers here don't have the middle agitator, so it tangles all your clothes up.

Its a nice surprise to open the washer to find one of your sweater arms have been pretzeled with 10 other clothing items, and when you finally untie everything, that arm is quite bit longer than the other.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use liquid, make sure it's detergent, pretty often it's just that scent stuff. I personally prefer the power detergent.
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crisdean



Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pkang0202 wrote:
Top load washers here don't have the middle agitator, so it tangles all your clothes up.

Its a nice surprise to open the washer to find one of your sweater arms have been pretzeled with 10 other clothing items, and when you finally untie everything, that arm is quite bit longer than the other.


no doubt, without the central agitator a top load washer is a piece of garbage. Though I'd still take it over one of these uselessly tiny frontload machines that take eons to wash 6 shirts and a pair of jeans, and aren't big enough for me to put my quilt in. As it stands washing machines in Korea = big fail
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickGHBusan wrote:
OP: do you use detergent that is made for He (High efficiency)machines and use the proper water temperature setting for the detergent?


I use the "drum" detergent. I don't know all the details on it but I generally wash my clothes in cold water.

I guess I will go with what the previous poster said and just use the dryer function again... the clothes do come out pretty dry (except jeans) and i don't have all the lint issues that way.. I just find it a tad wasteful as I dont mind hanging the clothes to dry
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Goon-Yang



Joined: 28 May 2009
Location: Duh

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: front loading washers Reply with quote

Hyeon Een wrote:
reactionary wrote:
i feel like my TROMM front loader is completely useless at getting the clothes clean unless i use the drier function.

they come out linty and even minor stains don't wash out.

i mean, the drier's nice, but it takes like 3 hours. am i doing something wrong?


Only N.Americans and poor Koreans use top loaders.

You are probably using your machine wrong. Read the instructions or stain your clothes with less stainable stuff.

Welcome to the front-loading future.


Huh and here most of the Koreans told me they hate the front loaders and they're useless.
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postfundie



Joined: 28 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed:

LONG LIVE the N. American TOP-LOADER + DRYER combination.

Faster, efficient and cleaner than any of the garbage I've had to put up

with in the Middle East, Asia, or Europe. Less than 2 hours, to wash then

dry and to be done with it all!!!!
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Throw 5-6 of those nobbly rubber balls in to stop clothes tangling in top-loaders.
You can maybe try a faster wash setting, and maybe dry the clothes with a fan. When you don't have to wear them that day, drying time is not a factor.
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jk3587



Joined: 02 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.emartmall.com/display/item.do?method=getItemInfoViewDtl&item_id=8801046875018&site_id=1&ctg_id=402832&shop_id=

Above link is from EMart for the HE detergent. They sell it in the little box too. There are some other options (different brands, still HE) too.
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: front loading washers Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:


Most people in NZ use top loaders, it's got nothing to do with money it's about space.

As far as I know washer dryer combos never work as well as individual units.


My frontloading washer is a Frigidaire model from the Canaduh, and the Kenmore dryer rests in all its glory on top of that...so riddle me this space you speak of Riddler... Wink

- the washer is possessed though and if i don't unplug it it decides to wash ghost loads...could be the fact it is in a humidity ridden bathroom and the electrical has gone haywire, or the step down converter...in any case...it washes very well whether there are clothes in it or not.
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