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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: Discipline for first grade elementry |
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So parents have called and complained that I am too nice to the children. Usually I let little things slide because when I spend time trying to discipline one child the other 12 are being neglected and become restless. However if they want me to bring the hammer, I will.
But how to do you give good discipline to people who barely know the alphabet? I have methods for general class control. But I am looking for effective means to punish single students that can be expressed to them ith body language. |
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T-J

Joined: 10 Oct 2008 Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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With first graders, you want to choke up on the love stick a little.... |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Discipline for first grade elementry |
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jiberish wrote: |
So parents have called and complained that I am too nice to the children. Usually I let little things slide because when I spend time trying to discipline one child the other 12 are being neglected and become restless. However if they want me to bring the hammer, I will.
But how to do you give good discipline to people who barely know the alphabet? I have methods for general class control. But I am looking for effective means to punish single students that can be expressed to them ith body language. |
Discipline is something your K-teacher / K-co-teacher should take care of. Call one.
The only option that you, as a NET in a Kindy hagwon, have is to keep them busy and distracted.
Anything else will get you in more hot water than doing nothing.
In line with keeping them busy and distracted, I also assume you are younger and have little or no experience dealing with kids in that age range.
Kids at that age have an activity limit of 10-15 minutes.
After that they get bored, distracted and start to act out.
TPR is ideal at this age.
Change the routine -
plan your class so you have some quick (fun) motivational activity for 2-3 minutes to start (nice if it is lesson related),
then do 10 minutes of instructional stuff (lesson development).
Have another quick activity or song related to what you are doing. (5min).
10 more minutes of reinforcement of the lesson through some activity.
have a 10 minute activity or game that is lesson related to complete the lesson.
say good-bye and get ready for your next class.
(and you thought prep meant 5 minutes at the copy machine). |
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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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I do afterschool. So I am alone. I do try to keep them busy but my class is more based on speaking. So typically I will go around the class asking every student a similar question. So it is difficult to keep them busy all of the time. This could be solved if they had to write their answers. But then parents will complain that they are not speaking.
It is really about a few bad apples. Although your points are well noted. I do feel there could be room for improvment to a tighter more structured lesson. |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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pick one out to be the example and have 'em do pushups til their arms bleed. watch the other maggots fall in line REAL quick.
Remember, I believe it was Dick Van Patton or Miachiavelli who said, "It is better to be feared than loved...."  |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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Isolation will usually make them stop. Then if they continue to want to distract you during time-out, the clock starts over with their arms in the air. Then if they can't do that, you tie a rope to their belt and the other end to your desk and make them wait outside the door.
If mom has a problem with that, you tell her that if Min-su is going to act like an animal, he can wear a leash like an animal. |
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8 years down
Joined: 16 Dec 2009
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: Discipline for first grade elementry |
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jiberish wrote: |
So parents have called and complained that I am too nice to the children. |
Next complaint will be that you look too angry or scary. Don't take complaints seriously unless you actually agree with them. House moms have nothing better to do than complain and get discounts on things. |
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jiberish

Joined: 17 Jul 2006 Location: The Carribean Bay Wrestler
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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
If mom has a problem with that, you tell her that if Min-su is going to act like an animal, he can wear a leash like an animal. |
I like that haha |
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bliss
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Location: Gyeonggi
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:34 am Post subject: |
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I also teach after school, public school program.
Here are some suggestions:
If the are really disruptive, have the child stand facing the wall in a corner with their hands in the air for 10-15 minutes.
Use a reward system for good behavior. I have a page glued into their textbooks. On that page I put reward stamps. If a child is really bad, they have a stamp crossed out.
When you are scolding them, glare at them and raise your voice angrily.
Threaten phone-calling their parents for bad behavior. If threats don't work, follow through with a call from your co-teacher/manager to the parents.
Speaking of your co-teacher/manager: he/she should be responsible for some discipline issues. You should involve that person more in these issues - talk to him/her everyday about particular students and how you would like their behavior to change and ask for them to be spoken to. |
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Countrygirl
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Location: in the classroom
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:57 am Post subject: |
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I teach larger classes and x's (bad behaviour) and o's (good behaviour) work with groups but one thing that worked well with my smaller classes was magic marker. If a child was being bad, I'd say magic marker and start writing the students name. When he/she stopped causing a disturbance, I'd stop writing the name. If I finished writing the child's name then they would be punished ie hands in the air, clean the room after class, writing lines, kicked out of class for a few minutes. It worked so well that the other students would yell magic marker when other kids were bad and it's great when you have 2 or more kids with the same letter to their name 'cause no ones sure who's in trouble.
My daughter's teacher gives coupons for a certain number of stamps and I'd thought I'd try that when I teach smaller classes. Each coupon can be traded in for being first in line to go home, candy, change your seat for the day. Each coupon only lasts a week and then it expires.
Good luck. |
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blackjack

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: anyang
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: |
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jiberish wrote: |
I do afterschool. So I am alone. I do try to keep them busy but my class is more based on speaking. So typically I will go around the class asking every student a similar question. So it is difficult to keep them busy all of the time. This could be solved if they had to write their answers. But then parents will complain that they are not speaking.
It is really about a few bad apples. Although your points are well noted. I do feel there could be room for improvment to a tighter more structured lesson. |
I teach afterschool as well
your answer is peer pressure
divide the class in two. name each team write it on the board. (I use lions and tigers, they will know the english names for those animals).
Every time a kid does good, give that team a point, every time they do bad, give a minus point. These points are concrete, they can't come off. You need quiet in the class, raise your hand extend finger by finger till five minus point to you ever is still talking. They get the point very quickly. If a kid asks for a game a minus point, no homework? minus point. A kid answers a question plus point.
The winning team leaves the class first the losing team leaves when the wining team is gone.
The downfall of this is a kid that just doesn't care (not common but it does happen). For this you take the kids desk to the front of the class and he/she is not allowed to talk or interact until they start behaving, it might take a couple of lessons, but kids don't like being ignored.
I was shown this a couple of years ago and it works, give it a shot. You don't have to explain the rules, they will pick them up pretty quick |
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