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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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Kinnery when your post is used as propaganda on how all teachers in Korea are pedos and perverts, don't forget that I said something.
I cannot believe that moderators allow such disgusting thoughts.
No I am not God, I am a father. I don't think that jokes or innuendos about molesting children is funny or appropriate. |
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kinerry
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
Kinnery when your post is used as propaganda on how all teachers in Korea are pedos and perverts, don't forget that I said something.
I cannot believe that moderators allow such disgusting thoughts.
No I am not God, I am a father. I don't think that jokes or innuendos about molesting children is funny or appropriate. |
First off, I didn't post my thoughts (as my computer does not have the ability to mind read), I posted a fact and you made the long-ball assumption that it was something that I wanted/did.
The only reason someone would use something like that for propaganda was if someone suggested it (which you just did).
The law is the way it is because of Korean culture, if you think the law is perverted, address them, not me.
You seem to be obsessed with the opinions of others, did you not get out much when you were younger?
Also, I semi-disagree with the statement on girls being easy to teach. The sexes just learn better with different methods. It's a matter of semantics really, they aren't "easier to teach." The typical Korean teaching method does favor women though. I personally see more girls than boys in my classes, across all ages. |
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frankly speaking
Joined: 23 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Show the proof. I have never heard 13. I have heard 16 but never 13.
You noobs know everything.
In fact by stating what you stated you have now given others the idea that it is acceptable not I. |
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nomad-ish
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain
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| Posted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="kinerry"]
| frankly speaking wrote: |
Also, I semi-disagree with the statement on girls being easy to teach. The sexes just learn better with different methods. It's a matter of semantics really, they aren't "easier to teach." The typical Korean teaching method does favor women though. I personally see more girls than boys in my classes, across all ages. |
i guess that's true, but i honestly didn't see a huge difference at my coed school until i went to a couple of all girl schools. the girls at my old coed school were usually good students come to think of it, but having the boys in the room seemed to change the class dynamics. when it's all girls in a class they tend to be more talkative and a bit more willing to take chances when speaking in front of everyone. |
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kinerry
Joined: 01 Jun 2009
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| Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
Show the proof. I have never heard 13. I have heard 16 but never 13.
You noobs know everything.
In fact by stating what you stated you have now given others the idea that it is acceptable not I. |
I don't have the Korean penal codes in front of me, but the best I have had it explained to me is that 13 is technically legal, but there are all sorts of ways they fix it like charging for prostitution if you buy her/him any gifts or she/he happens to get better grades in school. There are also sodomy laws that they like to charge people with.
It's not an area to go experimenting in lol |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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Update: I now have 30 male students and 9 female students.
Some of the comments helped me come up with a possible reason why.
I remember hearing that in Korean society, after marriage, the woman no longer works (this would be like 1950s America), so maybe the parents see paying high hagwon fees as a better investment for male children.
And to answer an earlier question, yes, I work in a rural area, which may be a bit more conservative. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Update: I now have 30 male students and 9 female students. I remember hearing that in Korean society, after marriage, the woman no longer works (this would be like 1950s America), so maybe the parents see paying high hagwon fees as a better investment for male children.
And to answer an earlier question, yes, I work in a rural area, which may be a bit more conservative. |
The sex ratio disparity is particularly pronounced in the provinces and you are feeling the effects of that discrimination in your class. It's almost impossible to determine whether the male/female sex ratio stats in your neck of the woods are off kilter without a lot more information. Although your classroom might be sounding the alarm of what is going on in the schools and society at large, it might be a confounding variable, but I doubt it. The topic of sex selection in Korea is very hush, hush and with the status of investigative journalism in South Korea not being very impressive, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that parents are taking the initiative. I'd wager it has more to do with early abortions because the ratio of boys to girls in utero should be just about par if not a little higher on the girls side. With this in mind, the sex disparity is pretty compelling evidence that something or someone is messing with the natural developmental process. I hope this is changing and that this is some kind of residual, last generation Chinese effect. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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or it could just be an anomaly of one class...even if there were a perfect balance between girls and boys at that age range it doesn't mean every class would be uniform.
There is no strange gender gap in Canada that I'm aware of, yet my junior high class was something like ~23 girls to 7 boys |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| kinerry wrote: |
| Nuggets wrote: |
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...or you could always just switch to an all girls' public school  |
Nomad-ish - you seem to always have a thing for the 'all girls' public schools'  |
well, 13 IS legal |
FO FO FO!!!! You are best teacher!
| frankly speaking wrote: |
| Show the proof. I have never heard 13. I have heard 16 but never 13. |
It was in KHerald. I'm still wondering what their source is.
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| In fact by stating what you stated you have now given others the idea that it is acceptable not I. |
IIIIII also would like to add that I never said it was acceptable. I've got 13 year olds still losing baby teeth. It's disgusting to even think about. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| crossmr wrote: |
| or it could just be an anomaly of one class... |
Actually, that's the total number of students at my school. Class sizes range between one and eight. |
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crossmr
Joined: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Hwayangdong, Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
| crossmr wrote: |
| or it could just be an anomaly of one class... |
Actually, that's the total number of students at my school. Class sizes range between one and eight. |
Then it could be an anomaly of one school. Its not a particularly big school if that's the total number of students. The same still holds true. Everything is not uniform across all levels 100% of the time.
its not that difficult for a few families to move to an area or make a choice about which hagwon to send their kid to. They've got plenty of options |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I once taught at a really rural middle school with around 50 students total. I think it was like 27 boys and 23 girls. But the separate grades were really unbalanced. |
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oldfatfarang
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.
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| Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| frankly speaking wrote: |
Kinery please edit or delete your post. It is in poor taste to say the least.
As for the OP, the male population does exceed the female population in Korea. Go to Thailand if you want more females per class.
"Its the norm for my classes to have more boys than girls-thats down to the sex-selective abortions unfortunately. "
Any proof in that? I know that is true for China but I don't think so in Korea. |
Ditto your comment about Kinery's post. Western teachers in Korea don't need the sort of negative publicity that comments like that make. Kinery, what are you thinking??
Boys are favored in Confucian culture because only men can undertake Confucian rituals regarding 'dead' relatives. (I think nobody is really dead here until they've been dead for several generations.(?)
Boys are also the 'future' for the family (money and continuation of the family name). Traditionally, girls aren't favored and money is spent on educating male heirs. Anyone teacher working in a hagwon will tell you that they avoid the 'my son' discussions with mothers.
It's well known that Koreans use gender selective surgery. I've even taught adult conversation textbooks that had a chapter on it (although, funnily enough, nobody wanted to discuss that topic!).
I've noticed that many public school teachers have 'sons', some even 2 sons. Nobody wants to discuss why, but I've had some Koreans tell me that there is a special gene in Korea that only produces boys (ha, ha, ha).
There have been so many gender selective abortions that now Korean population dynamics are imbalanced (hence poor/farming K boys having to buy SE wives). |
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