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Dr. Buck



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Land of the Morning Clam

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:01 am    Post subject: Nothing like fresh seafood Reply with quote

Consider this the next time you're having some jo-gye tang:

From the US FDA
http://www.fda.gov/ora/fiars/ora_import_ia16126.html

"DETENTION WITHOUT PHYSICAL
EXAMINATION OF FRESH OR FRESH FROZEN RAW MOLLUSCAN SHELLFISH FROM SPECIFIC
CERTIFIED SHIPPERS IN THE REPUBLIC OF KOREA"

A consequence of these floating structures is that human and animal
waste can be discarded into the approved harvesting areas. The evaluators observed: sanitary facilities for humans were either
non-existent, infrequently used, or in disrepair; animal (dog and
cat) waste was lying on floating docks; and the overboard discharge
from fish farms was in close proximity to the oysters. This waste
from either human or animal sources could be directly discharged
into the water in and adjacent to previously approved shellfish
harvesting areas.

The evaluators also observed that aquaculture shellfish harvesting
vessels did not have on-board containers for holding human wastes,
creating the potential for human wastes to be discharged overboard
directly into waters approved for shellfish harvesting. In
addition, other activities, including bathing, hand washing,
laundering of clothes, processing and routine maintenance,
contributed contaminants directly into the surface waters of the
previously approved harvesting areas. Since molluscan shellfish are
filter feeders, they are able to concentrate viral, bacterial and
chemical contaminants to significantly higher levels than in the
surrounding waters.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please serve me the crab stuffed with lead ingots.
(Anyone remember that?)
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Juggertha



Joined: 27 May 2003
Location: Anyang, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hhe, if we knew what was really IN ALL the food (back home or here) i'm sure we'd all heave.
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tsgarp



Joined: 01 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Please serve me the crab stuffed with lead ingots.
(Anyone remember that?)
That was from China and yes, they still screw around like that. That wasn't a one time thing.
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have eaten any shellfish since I first came to Korea way way way back at the turn of the century. These filter feeders concentrate huge amounts of Mercury and heavy metals in their systems and aren't able to process or expell it through waste. If you have ever seen the Yellow Sea and still partaken of the seafood here, you must either be crazy or have that never say die attitude.

I have a suspicion, totally underfounded of course, that hundreds if not thousands die ever year from contaminated seafood. The media are obviously not allowed to report it and the police just mark it down as an 'Act of God'.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tsgarp wrote:
Bulsajo wrote:
Please serve me the crab stuffed with lead ingots.
(Anyone remember that?)
That was from China and yes, they still screw around like that. That wasn't a one time thing.

Actually I what I heard was slightly different- (I heard) It was done by Korean crab fishermen specifically with the intent to discredit Chinese crab imports, the reasoning being that it was such a blantant, bound to be discovered tactic and one that would only marginally increase the price per kilo of crab caught while at the same time being so labor instensive (how many hours would you have to sit around stuffing crabs full of lead to just to make a few extra won?) that only a bunch of complete fools would attempt it. Occam's razor at work here. Can't say whether it's true or not.
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tsgarp



Joined: 01 Dec 2003

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fidel wrote:
I have eaten any shellfish since I first came to Korea way way way back at the turn of the century. These filter feeders concentrate huge amounts of Mercury and heavy metals in their systems and aren't able to process or expell it through waste. If you have ever seen the Yellow Sea and still partaken of the seafood here, you must either be crazy or have that never say die attitude.
I have a suspicion, totally underfounded of course, that hundreds if not thousands die ever year from contaminated seafood. The media are obviously not allowed to report it and the police just mark it down as an 'Act of God'.
Every once in awhile there's some kind of outbreak here, usually liver ailments tied into the red tide algae and the media does a very nice job of getting the word out. Still, there's alwyas some nuts who insist on eating raw seafood during these warning periods and you get 3 or 4 deaths a year. As for anything else related to seafood, most deaths are going to be the slow accumulation of poisonous substance types like the aforementioned mercury and other heavy metals.
Now you want a really fun shellfish toxin try Domoic (also Demoic) Acid. Amnesic Shellfish Poisoning
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Symptoms include vomiting, nausea and abdominal cramps within 24 hours of ingestion. In severe cases, it can cause neurological symptoms within 48 hours, and includes headaches, confusion, disorientation, loss of short-term memory motor weaknesses, profuse respiratory secretions, cardiac arrhythmia and coma. People who have ingested very high doses have died from the poisoning. There is no known antidote, and even cooking the shellfish or fish won't get rid of the poison.
In 1987, more than 100 people became ill after consuming mussels with domoic acid in the Canadian province of Prince Edwards.
The deaths of more than 400 California sea lions occurred in 1998 which had ingested large amounts of anchovies and small fish that had fed on domoic acid producing algae.
Still, you gotta admit a fresh oyster with cho-jang is heaven.
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Dr. Buck



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Land of the Morning Clam

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a fresh seafood lover to the end.

Yet, in the seaside industrial wasteland where I live, the clam digging ajummas are out in full force in hip waders--out in the mudflats when the tide goes out--collecting clams and whatever else is vaguely edible.

One of the world's largest steelyards is one hundred yards away from this enclosed bay. It makes you wonder. No aquatic vegetation grows along the banks or in he shallows-as a bioindicator, when even some species of weeds won't even grow there it has to beg a question of what is going on in the water.

I've cast my fishing line out there with jigs, flies, various lures and nothing--not the slightest hint of life. Except for those bivalves that the ajummas seemingly continue to overharvest.

Since I go fishing every weekend, I've become more observant on what goes and flows into Korea's waters. What I have seen after hundreds--, thousands of hours of standing along Korea's riverbanks and shorelines--is not optimisitic. It is sad, much of it is sickening.

And back to the orginal tangent, you have to second guess everything that goes on your cutting board in the kitchen. One of the most popular items of garbage that I come across while fishing the rivers is empty bottles of pesticide and herbicide. An amazing number. Next time you're out hiking look for them--they are everywhere.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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One of the most popular items of garbage that I come across while fishing the rivers is empty bottles of pesticide and herbicide. An amazing number. Next time you're out hiking look for them--they are everywhere.
And if you're in the right place and it's your lucky day you might even find a bouncing-betty washed out from the DMZ...
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