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bundangbear

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: www.youtube.com/bundangbear
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:48 am Post subject: There are good hagwons in Korea |
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Greetings!
I just arrived in Korea this week. I have taught in Japan and in the US, where I am from. I have read so many horror stories and such on the net, that, despite what many of my pals who are here had told me, I believed what people were saying: Korea sucks, all hagwons suck, and don't go. Well, I beleive that could not be further from the truth, based on my first week. This is so much better than working in Japan, and everything is all strawberries and new appliances. (Literally and metaphorically.)
I think most people who post stuff like "This life sucks" do have bad situations, but most people who have good situations don't post anything. People love to vent, but when things are going well, who needs to vent to the support group known as Dave's?
So, I landed, and was greeted at the airport. My apartment had all new, as in in-the-box-new TV, VCR, microwave, rice cooker, kitchen ware, stereo, bedding, and there was even the next days breakfast in the fridge--jam, milk, bread, apples, water. I work 4 hours a day, 6 days a week, and the owner of the school is really cool and friendly. I get 2.3 million. All the other teachers are great. I asked for an advance of 500,000, and I received it the next day. The job is in a really nice and modern area of Bundang, near Samsung Plaza.
I know this sounds too good to be true, and if I were not living it, I may be skeptical, too, especially after all the horror stories out there.
How did I get this job? I did my homework. I had friends who advised me, and I only accepted a school that met ALL (not some--all) of my criteria. I spent 6 months broke and living with my family doing this job search, and it was worth every second of it. I DID NOT USE A RECRUITER. I TALKED TO THE SCHOOL DIRECTLY. I suggest you do the same. And the school asked a lot of questions about My teaching style and my experiences. (Yes, this school would probably not have hired me fresh out of college--they want teachers with some ESL experience.) Id they show so much concern about the kids, then they must care somewhat about the teachers. In my case, a lot.
I honestly hope this helps some of you out. There are good places out there: do your homework. Thanks! |
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Imbroglio

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Behind the wheel of a large automobile
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:22 am Post subject: |
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I like hearing good news... good for you! |
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Harvard Material
Joined: 25 Feb 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:37 am Post subject: Where? |
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Does sound nice bundangbear. Does this school have a name? |
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rapier
Joined: 16 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:42 am Post subject: |
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sounds good, well done. I'm interested to hear your impressions after a couple months (hopefully still good). |
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kangnamdragon

Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:48 am Post subject: |
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I hope the majority of jobs are really like this. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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I'd be willing to bet BB works next to Chorim station and lives in an office-tel on the other side of the Lotte Dept store, am I right BB? |
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Gollum
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo wrote: |
I'd be willing to bet BB works next to Chorim station and lives in an office-tel on the other side of the Lotte Dept store, am I right BB? |
You might mean Sunae station, right? At least that's the closest station to Lotte Dept store that i know of. That's my home area, although my school is near Yatap.
I happened to bump into a Korean couple in my building, and they were excited to see me, and spoke semi-decent English. They said that they have a hagwon somewhere around here (Lotte Dept Store area) and were expecting their teacher to arrive in the next few days.... that was a few weeks back.
My place is new, but I had to basically furnish it myself, past the refridgerator and wash machine.
Kinda sux that you have to work on Saturdays, though your days sound nice and short. Decent pay, though.
If you are looking for someone to hang out with in Bundang, please PM me. |
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bundangbear

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: www.youtube.com/bundangbear
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:44 pm Post subject: Nope, Seonhyeon Station |
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Yes, after a few months my impression very well might change. Ok, i'm charmed a good bit by Bundang, but I'm on a visit to a buddy that lives in Songtan, and this area is SOOOOOOOO sdifferent from where I live. Yup, all Korea is not Bundang. A lot of it is poor and depressed and the people are more pushy. But I haven't even seen a cigarette butt on the street yet in my neighborhood.
NOPE. I live a short bus ride or slightly long walk from Seohyeon Station, where Samsung Plaza is. I've been to the Sunae Station area around the Lotte Dept. store and it is soooooooo much more run down and crappy than my neighnborhood. It's the nicest neighborhood i've ever lived in. I come from poor, working class (pulp and paper work is family--does anybody know how crappy that work is??) family, so i'm not trying to brag or BS, I'm just sharing my own shock and amazement at my great situation with all you out there.
Granted, things change, and I'm a pretty bi-polar kinda guy myself, but, ya gotta admit, when you're on the high end of the bi-polar thing, life is as grand and wonderful as it ever could be. And just a month ago I was slaving my ass off and living paycheck to paycheck teaching 8 hours a day with an evil boss and I got yelled at if students didn't renew thier contracts--this was in Toride, Japan. And I lived in a closet and slept on the floor and it cost 20 dollars toi take a train one way into Tokyo. Anyhow, thanx for listening....
pundang pear...uh, pundang bear...bundangbear |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Gollum wrote: |
Bulsajo wrote: |
I'd be willing to bet BB works next to Chorim station and lives in an office-tel on the other side of the Lotte Dept store, am I right BB? |
You might mean Sunae station, right? At least that's the closest station to Lotte Dept store that i know of. |
Nope. It's definitely Chorim station I'm thinking of (one past Sohyun) but I could be wrong about the dept store being Lotte. It used to be the Blue Hill Dept. Store... maybe it's Hyundai now rather than Lotte. Regardless, I don't think BB's working at the school I thought s/he was. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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Bulsajo wrote: |
Gollum wrote: |
Bulsajo wrote: |
I'd be willing to bet BB works next to Chorim station and lives in an office-tel on the other side of the Lotte Dept store, am I right BB? |
You might mean Sunae station, right? At least that's the closest station to Lotte Dept store that i know of. |
Nope. It's definitely Chorim station I'm thinking of (one past Sohyun) but I could be wrong about the dept store being Lotte. It used to be the Blue Hill Dept. Store... maybe it's Hyundai now rather than Lotte. Regardless, I don't think BB's working at the school I thought s/he was. |
Bulsajo, you need a new map... Chorim station changed it's name to Sunae about two years ago.
Bundangbear, you've landed a decent job an a nice area. Good for you. Seohyeon is indeed the most desirable area in Bundang. I live one stop down in the Sunae area but I'm not sure if it's as run-down as you describe. Samsung Plaza adds a bit of glitz to the immediate subway station area but the surrounding area is virtually the same as the rest of Bundang.
Anyway, if you want to meet other teachers in Bundang give me a PM. |
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Bulsajo

Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:13 am Post subject: |
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eamo wrote: |
Bulsajo, you need a new map... Chorim station changed it's name to Sunae about two years ago. |
No kidding? Well, you learn something new every day. |
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nateyb

Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Location: witness protection program (or Bundang)
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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have to agree with Eamo on Sunae. It is pretty much the same. I work in Sunae and it is great.
BB, you have a good job, and keep it! |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I can't complain too much so far. I have a healthy dose of skepticism but hagwons remind me a lot of the dot.com world which I worked in for 4 years. No one plans, no one takes responsibility. Happens in American, happens in this Korean gold rush too. The point is to just let much of this roll off of you and keep going. As long as they pay on time and pay what I was contracted for...
And did any of us come to Korea for an easy life? I came partially for the challenge. After spending 4 years being paid to surf the internet, it's nice to be back in a job where at least I feel like I've earned my salary at week's end. |
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bundangbear

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: www.youtube.com/bundangbear
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Ok, Ok, I was totally talking crap about Sunae. Lotte is a wonderful department store. Samsung Plaza is a charmer, though, isn't it?? And, my neighborhood is a good bus ride from Samsung Plaza, slightly up the hill, and a bit removed from the chaos of living near the station. I still think it's the nicest place I've ever lived, and among the finest neighborhoods in all Korea. It's Bundang-dong, Bundang-gu, as in the Bundang neighborhood of Bundang ward. |
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shawner88

Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Man, cry me a river. Boohoo! Get a grip...oops wrong thread... |
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