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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: opinions on my return Reply with quote

I can't believe I'm doing this. After 1.5 years in Seoul, and times that were sometimes rough and lonely, I'm considering going back.

Part of it is the job market in the US, the other part is how difficult it is to get back into the social scene when all my friends have up and left or changed. Doesn't help that living cost is so high in the Bay Area, and what with my mother breathing down my neck every 10 minutes, it's been a hard month and a half adjusting back to American life. Living abroad has changed me. I can't stand to see fat people waddling through the supermarkets, sorting through the ice cream cartons and bags of potato chips. I love driving but I hate filling up the gas tank. And the friends here just don't have the same respect that my international friends had for me.

I have a part time job here teaching SAT writing/reading that pays a cushy $30/hr, but hours are few and far between.

So my options are:
1. Go back to Korea. After pressuring some recruiters, I've managed to get some decent offers that have surprised me. I would need to re-prepare all of my documents again. My university was in Australia, so getting transcripts is always a slow process. There were times that I HATED being in Korea, and there were times that I truly felt that it was great to be alive. There was never anything in between. It should be an easier lifestyle now that I know what to do and what to expect.

2. Do a one year working holiday in Australia. I've lived there for 8 years of my life (five as a child, three for university), and I am desperate to somehow get permanent residency. If I go there, I will probably get some shitty cleaning job and tutor English to int'l students on the side. I would basically be treading water but enjoying my life immensely.

3. Stay here in the Bay Area, move out and rent a room, get whatever job I can find to make ends meet. My dog isn't getting any younger, nor is my mom.

4. Try and try and try and try and try and try to get a job in Indonesia (where my best friend lives) or Japan (where I have other great friends). In the former, I can't save much money. The latter is good, but I don't speak Japanese and the job market is flooded.

Please no trolls. I know how difficult Korean life can be for foreigners. Perhaps someone else who's had the same difficulty adjusting back to life at home can chime in.
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afsjesse



Joined: 23 Sep 2007
Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if I were you, which I'm not, I would probably go to Australia. That's assuming you can get a job fairly easy. After that I would say go back to Korea. You've already admitted that you hated it at times and from your post you don't sound to excited about that thought.

Best wishes.
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salgichawa



Joined: 18 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: opinions on my return Reply with quote

darkcity wrote:
I can't believe I'm doing this. After 1.5 years in Seoul, and times that were sometimes rough and lonely, I'm considering going back.

Part of it is the job market in the US, the other part is how difficult it is to get back into the social scene when all my friends have up and left or changed. Doesn't help that living cost is so high in the Bay Area, and what with my mother breathing down my neck every 10 minutes, it's been a hard month and a half adjusting back to American life. Living abroad has changed me. I can't stand to see fat people waddling through the supermarkets, sorting through the ice cream cartons and bags of potato chips. I love driving but I hate filling up the gas tank. And the friends here just don't have the same respect that my international friends had for me.

I have a part time job here teaching SAT writing/reading that pays a cushy $30/hr, but hours are few and far between.

So my options are:
1. Go back to Korea. After pressuring some recruiters, I've managed to get some decent offers that have surprised me. I would need to re-prepare all of my documents again. My university was in Australia, so getting transcripts is always a slow process. There were times that I HATED being in Korea, and there were times that I truly felt that it was great to be alive. There was never anything in between. It should be an easier lifestyle now that I know what to do and what to expect.

2. Do a one year working holiday in Australia. I've lived there for 8 years of my life (five as a child, three for university), and I am desperate to somehow get permanent residency. If I go there, I will probably get some shitty cleaning job and tutor English to int'l students on the side. I would basically be treading water but enjoying my life immensely.

3. Stay here in the Bay Area, move out and rent a room, get whatever job I can find to make ends meet. My dog isn't getting any younger, nor is my mom.

4. Try and try and try and try and try and try to get a job in Indonesia (where my best friend lives) or Japan (where I have other great friends). In the former, I can't save much money. The latter is good, but I don't speak Japanese and the job market is flooded.

Please no trolls. I know how difficult Korean life can be for foreigners. Perhaps someone else who's had the same difficulty adjusting back to life at home can chime in.



Hi There,

Make a plan on how long you can 'just exist' on the current work. This will be your time frame.

Use the rest of the time to look for work in all the places you would be happy to go for work (the three you mentioned). Make a separate application package for them and search online and apply. Except for Australia though I imagine to employ you they will ask straight away about your visa application. Also decide which side of the fence as far as Korea is concerned before you get your papers together or anything. It may be that Korea is by far the easiest option so rule it out if you are certain it is out.

I'd say you are pretty flexible...the first one to give you a better job offer wins.

While you are working part time and looking for work, you might have to look at the hoops for the working holiday program for Australia. They accept applications at certain times of the year until they are filled. Not sure if you will leave the fat people and the gas (or petrol) behind there though, hopefully..!

At least this gives you another option. I know the medical and application could be expensive but once you get your answer you have some time to spend there and you are not obliged to spend the whole year. Also I think
if you had signed up for work elsewhere, you could write to them and it could be put off. Don't quote me, check the website.

My only point is that to get by and have a chance of living there and getting a permanent visa you have to be eligible to work and/ or to get married . If you don't get in at least you have a backup plan. So I think definitely apply way before thinking about working there since the government takes their time to process and you will have time to look for a job online and wait if you want to until later anyway...
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to Australia.

That's my post-Korea plan as well. I thought about staying here another year for the money, but I'm much happier in Australia and I can make money down there as well. Not as much of course, but the trade-off is worth it to me.
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's funny that all three recommend Australia. My mom and I had a huge fight about this last night. She doesn't want me to go because she thinks I haven't given the Bay enough of a chance. I really, really want to go, but I know that it's not necessarily the smartest move future-wise.

Thanks for the comments guys. To be clear, I don't/didn't hate living in Korea. I worked for a really shitty company, for what that's worth.
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DrugstoreCowgirl



Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You only live once. You can always go back to SF after living in Australia.
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salgichawa



Joined: 18 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrugstoreCowgirl wrote:
You only live once. You can always go back to SF after living in Australia.



Hi.

Ha Ha...at this rate it will be happening in Aus....Cool Laughing

OP with luck you may have lost your label of newcomer and do better in Korea this time......why not be really careful about checking the job?

It's true that you can stay and give life there more of a chance if you want to.

You could do a list of the positives and negatives of each decision.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't comment on the EFL/ESL scene in Australia, but I know there are thousands of overseas students there, many studying ESL.

I'm not being ironic when I say Australia is getting full. I'll be returning myself at the end of the year and I'm kind of worried about finding accommodation. Most immigrants are moving into Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and the infrastructure can't keep up. There's a huge debate right now happening about populaton growth, try finding a rental place in Melbourne Mad
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darkcity



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: SF, CA

PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:
Can't comment on the EFL/ESL scene in Australia, but I know there are thousands of overseas students there, many studying ESL.

I'm not being ironic when I say Australia is getting full. I'll be returning myself at the end of the year and I'm kind of worried about finding accommodation. Most immigrants are moving into Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane, and the infrastructure can't keep up. There's a huge debate right now happening about populaton growth, try finding a rental place in Melbourne Mad


You're somewhat right about this. I've only checked out the scene in Brisbane (my fav Aussie city), and accommodation isn't too difficult to find. But I have noticed that there are very few job ads but a F**KLOAD of job wanted ads. This worries me. I can survive there without working, but I don't want to squander all I've worked for from Korea.

I'm 26 now, and 30 is the cap for working holiday. [sigh]...to live for the present or live for the future...'tis the question...
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caribmon



Joined: 26 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's amazing, I know, we're 26 years old and we still get in fights with our mothers because they want us to stay here, yet we want to explore the cosmos. My mom is returning to the house and I just had the realization that I gotta find a job in Korea, or anywhere really.
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