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mises
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 Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:13 am Post subject: Collateral Murder |
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http://collateralmurder.com/
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5th april 2010 10:44 EST WikiLeaks has released a classified US military video depicting the indiscriminate slaying of over a dozen people in the Iraqi suburb of New Baghdad -- including two Reuters news staff.
Reuters has been trying to obtain the video through the Freedom of Information Act, without success since the time of the attack. The video, shot from an Apache helicopter gun-site, clearly shows the unprovoked slaying of a wounded Reuters employee and his rescuers. Two young children involved in the rescue were also seriously wounded.
The military did not reveal how the Reuters staff were killed, and stated that they did not know how the children were injured.
After demands by Reuters, the incident was investigated and the U.S. military concluded that the actions of the soldiers were in accordance with the law of armed conflict and its own "Rules of Engagement".
Consequently, WikiLeaks has released the classified Rules of Engagement for 2006, 2007 and 2008, revealing these rules before, during, and after the killings.
WikiLeaks has released both the original 38 minutes video and a shorter version with an initial analysis. Subtitles have been added to both versions from the radio transmissions.
WikiLeaks obtained this video as well as supporting documents from a number of military whistleblowers. WikiLeaks goes to great lengths to verify the authenticity of the information it receives. We have analyzed the information about this incident from a variety of source material. We have spoken to witnesses and journalists directly involved in the incident.
WikiLeaks wants to ensure that all the leaked information it receives gets the attention it deserves. In this particular case, some of the people killed were journalists that were simply doing their jobs: putting their lives at risk in order to report on war. Iraq is a very dangerous place for journalists: from 2003- 2009, 139 journalists were killed while doing their work. |
Video in the link. It is horrific. |
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Hater Depot
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I want to know who is going to be held responsible. |
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mises
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
| I want to know who is going to be held responsible. |
Who will be held responsible? Not the people who should be. Probably nobody.
When I posted this link this AM I had watched only about 4-5 min of it. I've since watched all of it. It is much worse than I initially thought. It is sick. Vile. Disgusting. They kill people tending to the wounded. They're commenting the whole time in f-----g glee. It's just disgusting. |
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mises
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mises
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T-J
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Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.
I have no idea what the situation was in that particular area at the time. What was the threat level in general? What intelligence information were they operating on? So many factors go into situations like this. It is very easy, unfortunately to pluck 20 minutes out of the larger context and say "how terrible war is."
Of course war is horrible. We do have the most lethal military in the history of mankind. At the same time we are also the most restrained, professional, and accountable military in the history of mankind. To state otherwise is pure ignorance. |
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machinoman
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
| It is very easy, unfortunately to pluck 20 minutes out of the larger context and say "how terrible war is." |
what greater context would justify what happens in this video? did you watch it? |
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T-J
Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| machinoman wrote: |
| T-J wrote: |
| It is very easy, unfortunately to pluck 20 minutes out of the larger context and say "how terrible war is." |
what greater context would justify what happens in this video? did you watch it? |
Yes, I watched it. A myriad of things including but not limited to insurgent activity in the recent past or chatter / intelligence of upcoming activity targeting civilians, Iraqi, and or coalition forces.
My turn for a question. Have you been there? |
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Sleepy in Seoul
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| Wow. Well, at least they weren't tortured. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| T-J wrote: |
Monday morning quarterbacking is easy.
I have no idea what the situation was in that particular area at the time. What was the threat level in general? What intelligence info | | |
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