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Milkman Dan
Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:42 pm Post subject: Making up missed classes after taking a sick day |
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I recently took one sick day from school due to having a nasty cold. When I returned, I was notified that I have to make up the classes that I missed the previous day (4 total) next week. I initially had no problem with this until I realized that I've been scheduled to work a total of 25 hours (Not including 4 additional overtime/afterschool hours) next week.
So, that's obviously violating the 22 hour limit placed on GEPIK contracts. I'm curious as to what my options are:
- Do I even have to make up these missed lessons?
- Does anyone else have this problem with their schools?
- What if the school doesn't budge on this? Who would I contact about this? |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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This is a toughy. It's an obvious violation of your contract, but..........
......they already rescheduled the classes, so if you refuse to make them up you will be screwing over the students. This same situation happened to me last year. I just bit the bullet and made them up, but it was only two classes.
Usually, in these situations, I personally tell my school (politely) to take a hike, or advise people to do the same. However, in this case the students will be the ones who are affected, not some lame adjossis ego.
Tough call. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Making up missed classes after taking a sick day |
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| Milkman Dan wrote: |
I recently took one sick day from school due to having a nasty cold. When I returned, I was notified that I have to make up the classes that I missed the previous day (4 total) next week. I initially had no problem with this until I realized that I've been scheduled to work a total of 25 hours (Not including 4 additional overtime/afterschool hours) next week.
So, that's obviously violating the 22 hour limit placed on GEPIK contracts. I'm curious as to what my options are:
- Do I even have to make up these missed lessons?
- Does anyone else have this problem with their schools?
- What if the school doesn't budge on this? Who would I contact about this? |
GEPIK??
You are NOT required to "make up" missed "regular" classes for a sick day. If you take part in the "afterschool program" then you have to make them up but they are (or should be) extra pay classes anyway.
You are NOT required to "prove" you were sick for less than 3 days off under the explicit terms of your contract.
Tell them to read the contract and then they can contact the GEPIK coordinator (Dain Bae) if they don't like it.
GEPIK Coordinator
Gyeonggi Provincial Office of Education
Level 3, Schools Policy Division
15 Worldcup-gil, Jangan �gu
Suwon-si , Gyeonggi-do 440-702
Republic of Korea
Ph. +82-(0)31-249-0044/0045 |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd teach the classes, and put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract." I don't think I could work for a boss who was petty enough to actually make me come in and teach a makeup class, or one who was short-sighted enough not to be able to find a replacement on short notice. |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| I'd teach the classes, and put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract." I don't think I could work for a boss who was petty enough to actually make me come in and teach a makeup class, or one who was short-sighted enough not to be able to find a replacement on short notice. |
Why don't you just not teach it and don't put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract?"  |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| I'd teach the classes, and put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract." I don't think I could work for a boss who was petty enough to actually make me come in and teach a makeup class, or one who was short-sighted enough not to be able to find a replacement on short notice. |
Why don't you just not teach it and don't put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract?" |
Because then they'd put a tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up his contract." |
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Ramen
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| I'd teach the classes, and put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract." I don't think I could work for a boss who was petty enough to actually make me come in and teach a makeup class, or one who was short-sighted enough not to be able to find a replacement on short notice. |
Why don't you just not teach it and don't put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract?" |
Because then they'd put a tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up his contract." |
You're a genius. Thanks for the laugh.  |
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ChilgokBlackHole
Joined: 21 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Ramen wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| Ramen wrote: |
| ChilgokBlackHole wrote: |
| I'd teach the classes, and put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract." I don't think I could work for a boss who was petty enough to actually make me come in and teach a makeup class, or one who was short-sighted enough not to be able to find a replacement on short notice. |
Why don't you just not teach it and don't put another tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up my contract?" |
Because then they'd put a tick in the column that says "reasons not to re-up his contract." |
You're a genius. Thanks for the laugh. |
No problem, dude. I mean, if you've got 100 reasons to renew, like loving the working environment, the hours, the pay, the kids, the co-workers, the city, a girl, etc, you might want to renew that contract. It sounds like you're saying that when it comes time to renew, you wouldn't mind them having things like "difficult to work with on make-up classes" on their little list. I guess that is kinda funny when I think about it. |
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NYC_Gal
Joined: 08 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the same boat. They've never asked for it before, but I took this Monday off after coming in all of last week with a serious cold. I just needed another day of rest. I also happened to have 6 classes of 6th graders, so knew that I couldn't handle it without choking and coughing, making me weaker.
I came in yesterday, and my coteacher informed that it was my duty. I raised an eyebrow, but as my new contract is scheduled to arrive either this week or next for renewal, I'll kiss a little butt for another week or two, until it's signed. I'm not making up all of them, but I was looking forward to a little reprieve after being ill.
Once that baby's signed and I've got my new visa, it'll be back to the whole "sorry that's not in my contract" schtick. If you're only partway into your current contract, and not at the very end, as I am, I'd politely explain that this isn't your duty and "Sorry, it's impossible." |
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jonpurdy
Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that seems like a bad idea. For regular classes, just combine the lesson material you missed with the next lesson. I've always done that.
After school is a different story, of course. Those need to be made up (though whenever I do a make up for after school I always spend half the time watching a movie; kids aren't going to focus for two hours). |
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Manuel_the_Bandito
Joined: 12 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| That's absurd. Korean teachers don't have to make up for lessons missed. Then again they don't treat sick days like holidays either. |
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DrugstoreCowgirl
Joined: 08 May 2009
Location: Daegu-where the streets have no name
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| Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've taken 1.5 sick days. The first day I was allowed to stay home because it was during winter break so there was no class. The second day they said I had to teach all of my classes and then I could go home.
Just so you don't feel bad, like I've said in another thread, anytime a class is cancelled for any reason I have to make it up. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:23 am Post subject: |
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| DrugstoreCowgirl wrote: |
I've taken 1.5 sick days. The first day I was allowed to stay home because it was during winter break so there was no class. The second day they said I had to teach all of my classes and then I could go home.
Just so you don't feel bad, like I've said in another thread, anytime a class is cancelled for any reason I have to make it up. |
There is NO provision in the GEPIK contract to make up classes.
Article 14(Sick Leave)
1. Employee shall be entitled to a paid Sick Leave in the case of any illness or injury which prevents the Employee from performing the duties herein only with the express consent of the Employer. The Employee shall notify the Employer of any absence due to sickness within one (1) hour of the beginning of the Employee�s duties.
2. A practicing doctor�s medical report shall be required for any and all sick leave taken for more than three (3) consecutive days.
3. Employee�s paid sick leave during the Term of Employment shall not exceed eleven (11) calendar days. If Employee requires a sick leave for more than eleven (11) calendar days, Employee may take a longer sick leave without pay.
and the EXPRESS CONSENT part of clause 1 is illegal under the Labor standards act.
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swinewho
Joined: 17 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Firstly, I hope your nasty cold is better! 
But don�t you have a duty of care to the kids?
You had your sick day, got paid for it � don�t you have a duty of care to the kids?
Assuming you had downloaded/made some stuff, then e-mailed it to your teachers to �cover� the lessons then I would maybe be on your side. But I�m guessing you didn�t?
Shut up and do it!
I guess you will need a reference for whatever job, all be it, maybe not teaching in the future???!!!
.................. In a few months time � New post, oh my school won�t/gave me a crappy reference!
Those pesky Koreans!
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| swinewho wrote: |
Firstly, I hope your nasty cold is better!
But don�t you have a duty of care to the kids?
You had your sick day, got paid for it � don�t you have a duty of care to the kids?
Assuming you had downloaded/made some stuff, then e-mailed it to your teachers to �cover� the lessons then I would maybe be on your side. But I�m guessing you didn�t?
Shut up and do it!
I guess you will need a reference for whatever job, all be it, maybe not teaching in the future???!!!
.................. In a few months time � New post, oh my school won�t/gave me a crappy reference!
Those pesky Koreans!
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That's not what "duty of care" means. Maybe you could've said "moral obligation", but she certainly doesn't have a "duty of care" to make up the classes.
What you said makes about as much sense as saying she has a "habeas corpus" to make up the classes. Perhaps she has a baloney sandwich to make up the classes? |
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