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Is limiting my search to just Seoul really a bad idea?

 
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Fat-Elvis



Joined: 28 Mar 2008
Location: Boston

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Is limiting my search to just Seoul really a bad idea? Reply with quote

I'm looking for private positions for this spring, and am being told by recruiters to broaden my search to other cities since only looking in Seoul might be too difficult. Are they blowing smoke up my butt and just want to put me in a school as soon as possible, or is limiting my search to the biggest city in Korea really going to pose a problem for me? I've done my research and I have my reasons for where I want to live (Seoul), and I don't really see myself accepting a position anywhere else, even if it means waiting.
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Oliver



Joined: 19 Apr 2008
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Is limiting my search to just Seoul really a bad idea? Reply with quote

Fat-Elvis wrote:
I'm looking for private positions for this spring, and am being told by recruiters to broaden my search to other cities since only looking in Seoul might be too difficult. Are they blowing smoke up my butt and just want to put me in a school as soon as possible, or is limiting my search to the biggest city in Korea really going to pose a problem for me? I've done my research and I have my reasons for where I want to live (Seoul), and I don't really see myself accepting a position anywhere else, even if it means waiting.


I wouldn't have thought that limiting your search to Seoul for a private school position would be a problem. Perhaps so in the case of public schools.

Keep plugging, find some other recruiters. You may actually find a better position in cities surrounding Seoul in Gyeonggi-do. That's something else to consider too.
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Hightop



Joined: 11 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you want to live in a Korean city it is a good idea. If you want to live in the country it is a bad idea. But why limit yourself to Korea? Anyway, recruiters will try to place you in the school they have vacancies in and in the schools that pay them the most. If they try to push you into a position in a location you dont want just move on to the next one.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Many satellite cities are within easy reach of Seoul, and even many rural areas are within an hour by express bus, which is cheap.

If you're older than 40 it's also more difficult to find a job in Seoul.
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banjois



Joined: 14 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Half the recruiters I talked to in my recent job search told me the same thing. "You don't have the qualifications" didn't quite jive with an English degree and years of experience teaching music to children. I actually spoke with a recruiter the night I was waiting to see the contract for the school I signed with, and she started in on the "oh, we won't be able to place you in Seoul..." I cut her off with "I've had five interviews and five job offers in just under a week." She didn't really have a response other than sputtering.

If you want Seoul and nothing but, tell them that. And work with as many recruiters as it takes before somebody's willing to find you a job that you actually want. The recruiter that wound up finding me what looks like a better position than I'd even hoped for seemed really sketchy at first and the first job offer I got through him was terrible. He tried to guilt-trip me about not taking it. I was firm with him that I needed to find something I'd be happy with. I was actually ready to cut him loose when he pulled a shiny rabbit out of his hat.

You can't blame recruiters for trying to get rid of their least desirable positions first. Somebody's gotta take them. Just be firm, use as many recruiters as you can before it makes you dizzy, and keep on trucking.
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lukas



Joined: 22 Aug 2009
Location: Bucheon

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Is limiting my search to just Seoul really a bad idea? Reply with quote

Fat-Elvis wrote:
I'm looking for private positions for this spring, and am being told by recruiters to broaden my search to other cities since only looking in Seoul might be too difficult. Are they blowing smoke up my butt and just want to put me in a school as soon as possible, or is limiting my search to the biggest city in Korea really going to pose a problem for me? I've done my research and I have my reasons for where I want to live (Seoul), and I don't really see myself accepting a position anywhere else, even if it means waiting.


I'm sure you can do it. It's just a matter of time. My original intention was to work only in Seoul, but after a month or two I just became impatient and settled for Bucheon, which is in Gyeonggi and a few stops out of a Seoul. For me, that's close enough, with the subway system I can be in seoul in about 30 minutes
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sakechan4ya



Joined: 02 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Many satellite cities are within easy reach of Seoul, and even many rural areas are within an hour by express bus, which is cheap.

If you're older than 40 it's also more difficult to find a job in Seoul.


I'm in the same mind frame as the OP. I really want to find a teaching job Seoul. I know that I shouldn't be as picky but I studied in Korea one year while in college and my university was out in Chungnam-Chonan province and commuting to Seoul every week on top of having to find a job to stay for the wkend was very expensive and time-consuming not to mention having to rush back to school because if we missed the train or the bus we would have to rush back to school over two hours away.

I would just rather live in Seoul that way if I want to go out and party, or shop or stay out with friends I can do so freely without having to rush back home.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a recruiter telling me I didn't have a chance with SMOE. And the recruiter said even with his teaching exp and his TEFL, wasn't enough to get a chance.

Got another recruiter and got a SMOE contract within 2 weeks. A lot of recruiters tend to just assume.
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Steve_Rogers2008



Joined: 22 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I think Elvis could only truly be happy in Seoul.... for gaudy fashions in his size, THE only place to go is Itaewon.

That and they have a really mean peanutbutter-and-banana sandwich there. The secret is they soak everything in soju before serving it up. Is there anything they DON'T think of? Shocked
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bsrosenfeld



Joined: 25 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Expand your Horizons Reply with quote

I was in the same situation as you. The only city I knew in Korea was Seoul and I was dead set on only working within the city. After a few months of job searching I realized it was time to expand my horizons. I spoke with a few schools near Busan, which is the second largest city. I eventually signed a contract with a public school in Ansan, which is only an hour away from Seoul by subway. Ansan has all of the modern amenities any city dweller would need; multiple grocery stores, lots of shopping, tons of bars and restaurants, subway stops and a decent sized expat population.
While I definitely think that you should voice your desires to your recruiter (if you're working with one), but be open minded to areas in the surrounding vicinities. The most important decision is how long do you want to wait. Some people need to start working right away and will take the 1st job that is offered to them. If you have a stable setup in Boston and can wait for the right job, then by all means wait for what you want.
I have been very pleased with my decision and I am happy that I'm in a suburb of Seoul and not right up in the cut.
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schlotzy



Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you really want to be in Seoul, it shouldn't be a problem. There are 100s of new job postings all the time.

Might I suggest Busan as well? It's still the second largest city, has a subway, and a fairly large foreign community. It also has the beaches and is a bit cheaper.
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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve_Rogers2008 wrote:
And I think Elvis could only truly be happy in Seoul.... for gaudy fashions in his size, THE only place to go is Itaewon.

That and they have a really mean peanutbutter-and-banana sandwich there. The secret is they soak everything in soju before serving it up. Is there anything they DON'T think of? Shocked


Are you from Truro? That was some funny shit./
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dirving



Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: Re: Expand your Horizons Reply with quote

bsrosenfeld wrote:
I was in the same situation as you. The only city I knew in Korea was Seoul and I was dead set on only working within the city. After a few months of job searching I realized it was time to expand my horizons. I spoke with a few schools near Busan, which is the second largest city. I eventually signed a contract with a public school in Ansan, which is only an hour away from Seoul by subway. Ansan has all of the modern amenities any city dweller would need; multiple grocery stores, lots of shopping, tons of bars and restaurants, subway stops and a decent sized expat population.
While I definitely think that you should voice your desires to your recruiter (if you're working with one), but be open minded to areas in the surrounding vicinities. The most important decision is how long do you want to wait. Some people need to start working right away and will take the 1st job that is offered to them. If you have a stable setup in Boston and can wait for the right job, then by all means wait for what you want.
I have been very pleased with my decision and I am happy that I'm in a suburb of Seoul and not right up in the cut.


Are you from the North Shore?

DI
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bsrosenfeld



Joined: 25 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The North Shore of New Jersey.
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