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davis.sw



Joined: 20 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Couple looking to Korea with a few questions Reply with quote

Alrighty,

My girlfriend and I are very interested in teaching in Korea and have decided, like many others, that the public school system is the way to go. However, recently we learned that both GEPIK and EPIK are no longer providing housing for unmarried couples. This comes as a serious blow to us as we were greatly looking forward to being able to share an apartment.

That said, living in separate apartments is something that would be tolerable, generally speaking. However, we have also heard of couples who went to Korea prepared to do this, only to find that they were living an hour bus ride away from each other. Not good! Sad

My questions are these:

1. How commonly does this happen (getting completely separated)? We could handle some distance in space but an hour would not be tolerable.

2. Between GPEIK and EPIK, is there a better organization to go with in regard to our couple living situation?

3. Would it perhaps better to target smaller cities or more rural areas? We'd prefer to be in the city but if it comes down to being in the city and not living near each other or rural and living close, we'll take the rural.

Also, it should be noted that we are getting the ball rolling somewhat late with our applications. We have contacted a recruiter and discussed things with him (ESL-Planet), but aside from this nothing else. Any advise on areas to target based on this information would be nice to know as well. (Should we target small areas because they are less likely to receive applications, essentially)

As always, thank you all very much for the help!
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under section 11 sub 8 of the current contract:

8. Employer shall provide couples housing only to married couples jointly employed by the Employer. If the couple holds different last names, they must prove their marital status with a marriage certificate or other relevant documentation.

You have a couple of options.

Find a larger PS in someplace like Suwon (small city of about 1 million) who will allow you to work and live together in spite of not being married (you will need to use a recruiter for this).

OR

Find a decent hakwon (cause they don't care).

There are some out there (like EOSkorea in Yongtong) who actively seek out couples (even unmarried) and the package can come close to the one offered by a PS. One minor setback is that you will be teaching kindy in the morning and elementary in the afternoon.

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toniyellow



Joined: 30 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell you from personal experience that Daegu is very good. My boyfriend and I came to Daegu with EPIK with the March 2010 group. We were told we would be living close, but noone actually confirmed it until the day before we got here. It was nerve wracking but ended up well.

There were at least 100 people who were going to Daegu, many of them couples or people who had joint applications - some friends, two sisters. When we finally met the Daegu POE at the end of Orientation they had a master list of all the people they were placing, and it was color coded so people who had asked to be placed near another person were highlited. Everyone I know has been placed within walking distance of who they applied with. My apartment is about a 15 minute walk from my boyfriends, both our apartments are in between our two schools.

Most people I have heard are actually closer, within a few blocks, some people in the same building as their partner - I'm jealous of them. From the start of the application we did ask about a housing allowance and they
wouldn't let us take that or even just one of us. Currently we live in one of the apartments and leave the other shut up to reduce utilities. The extra apartment is a waste, but I can't complain.

My boyfriend's school has invited me to their social events, and have mentioned coordinating our vacations with my school so we get them at the same time. So far they have been really helpful.
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davis.sw



Joined: 20 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toniyellow,

Thank you for that great reply!!! It is very encouraging. This couples situation is literally keeping me up at night.

Has anyone else had any similar experiences or can offer more insight into the 3 questions I asked.

Of course, thank you all.
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salgichawa



Joined: 18 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Couple looking to Korea with a few questions Reply with quote

davis.sw wrote:
Alrighty,

My girlfriend and I are very interested in teaching in Korea and have decided, like many others, that the public school system is the way to go. However, recently we learned that both GEPIK and EPIK are no longer providing housing for unmarried couples. This comes as a serious blow to us as we were greatly looking forward to being able to share an apartment.

That said, living in separate apartments is something that would be tolerable, generally speaking. However, we have also heard of couples who went to Korea prepared to do this, only to find that they were living an hour bus ride away from each other. Not good! Sad

My questions are these:

1. How commonly does this happen (getting completely separated)? We could handle some distance in space but an hour would not be tolerable.

2. Between GPEIK and EPIK, is there a better organization to go with in regard to our couple living situation?

3. Would it perhaps better to target smaller cities or more rural areas? We'd prefer to be in the city but if it comes down to being in the city and not living near each other or rural and living close, we'll take the rural.

Also, it should be noted that we are getting the ball rolling somewhat late with our applications. We have contacted a recruiter and discussed things with him (ESL-Planet), but aside from this nothing else. Any advise on areas to target based on this information would be nice to know as well. (Should we target small areas because they are less likely to receive applications, essentially)

As always, thank you all very much for the help!



Hi There,

Good luck on the couple thing it all depends on luck. If you haven't got a couple job the chances are you would both take a job and apartment and don't sing and dance about it. Later you could keep the one that is more convenient, bigger, or better. Either way one person might have to commute. The schools might think this way..we are only hiring one teacher; we will give an apartment to one. The other apartment can be kept for emergencies or can sometimes be 'given back' to the building owner if not used. It works on an investment system so the loss would be small or non existent.

Rural job + You would be more likely to have space and room for the two of you.

Rural job - the rural area could be quite large and or transport difficult making seeing each other/ commute difficult or impossible.

Don't go for rural unless you can be sure of your addresses.
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davis.sw



Joined: 20 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To all,

Thank you very much for the insight. I realize that it all comes down to rolling the dice. I'm just trying to play the best lottery!

Again, anyone else willing to chime in on the topic with their personal experiences about it is greatly appreciated.

Salgichawa, you mentioned that you would not take a rural job unless you knew the addresses before hand. I've been lead to believe that with the public school system you never know where you are living until you get to Korea. Am I wrong on this or would there be someway to investigate this before arriving?

Thanks again
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missmodular



Joined: 12 Apr 2010
Location: Austin, TX

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey there,

My boyfriend and I are also really concerned about this issue. We're applying to EPIK for the August 2010 start date. We're both going to request to be placed in a city, mostly because we'd like to enjoy our time in Korea and have lots of things to do, even if it means having to commute between two apartments. The ideal situation would be to have our schools near each other so that we could live together in one of the apartments. Barring that, having an easy commute between the two apartments would be the next best option.

With that in mind, we're trying to figure out what cities are relatively dense (better chance of being close to one another) or have really good transportation systems. We're thinking of either Busan (like half the people applying it seems), Daegu, or Daejeon. It seems like Busan has the best transportation options, but Daegu also seems to have decent subway and bus systems. I haven't found out much about Daejeon, but I know its smaller than the other two and seems like a nice city.

Anyway, that probably wasn't much help since I'm a newbie to this whole process, but just wanted to share my thoughts as someone dealing with this same issue!
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salgichawa



Joined: 18 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davis.sw wrote:
To all,

Thank you very much for the insight. I realize that it all comes down to rolling the dice. I'm just trying to play the best lottery!

Again, anyone else willing to chime in on the topic with their personal experiences about it is greatly appreciated.

Salgichawa, you mentioned that you would not take a rural job unless you knew the addresses before hand. I've been lead to believe that with the public school system you never know where you are living until you get to Korea. Am I wrong on this or would there be someway to investigate this before arriving?

Thanks again



Hi There,

To my knowledge it is quite a random placement. You will know if you are in the same area perhaps.

I think there is the chance you could make a request.

After I applied it was up to them from then on. As far as the apartment goes you could ask your school. For most people it might be easier to be near your school. Chances are that your school might have an apartment already, but might be able to change it if you explain.

Problem then with the rural ones is that they are likely to have less choice of apartments and if you are away from the school, maybe less transport, less to do.

Applying to a school directly will help you make sure of the school's location, but you may not have the umbrella of an education department.

If you are applying to an education department there is likely to be a bigger city close by. Check on the city they are affiliated with, how far etc.

Does anyone else have thoughts on this??
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