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Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus?
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Do you / would you give your seat for an old Korean person on a bus?
Yes (always / almost always) - I respect Korean custom / I am a very kind person.
43%
 43%  [ 30 ]
Yes (sometimes) - It depends on my mood.
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
Yes (sometimes) - It depends on how old / frail the person looks.
37%
 37%  [ 26 ]
No (It's my seat and I'll sit down if I want to)
7%
 7%  [ 5 ]
No (If I see anyone coming, I act innocent / give a blank stare / avoid eye contact)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
No (If I see anyone coming, I pretend to sleep)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
I never use Korean buses.
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Other (Please explain)
1%
 1%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 69

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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Give Up Your Seat For Old People On The Bus? Reply with quote

ABC KID wrote:
In Korean society we should respect older people (as we should in any other country in my opinion - not that it always works that way) and in some cases defer to them. This is supposed to extend to giving up your seat on the bus...

So do you / would give up your seat? Explain your answers please...


It's Korean custom to give up your seats to elders? Then why does it seem like I'm the only one getting up to offer my seat to the elderly, despite there being plenty of other young, fit Korean people sitting?
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Lunar Groove Gardener



Joined: 05 Jan 2005
Location: 1987 Subaru

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A large percentage of Korean youth have clearly not received the memo on this.

Clearly the blinking lights in their hands have usurped their ability to be aware of anything outside of their cellies.
Samsung borg army.
One day all will be suggestible to the point that a few flashes or flicks from that vibrating mind melder and they'll do what the machine tells them. Perhaps it will tell them to give up their seat already!

How about: "Do you try to move the drunk guy that is laid out on floor of the subway"?
Me, nope, step over him.

One more:"When some dude sits next to you and splays his legs so that he's pressing full ham on you, do you give him a good shove to get him off you"?
Yes, always nudge the nuisance, though in my country this might get one killed.
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Solarian



Joined: 12 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always give it up, unless I'm hauling massive amounts of heavy stuff and have a very long ride ahead of me.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lunar Groove Gardener wrote:
A large percentage of Korean youth have clearly not received the memo on this.

Clearly the blinking lights in their hands have usurped their ability to be aware of anything outside of their cellies.
Samsung borg army.
One day all will be suggestible to the point that a few flashes or flicks from that vibrating mind melder and they'll do what the machine tells them. Perhaps it will tell them to give up their seat already!

How about: "Do you try to move the drunk guy that is laid out on floor of the subway"?
Me, nope, step over him.

One more:"When some dude sits next to you and splays his legs so that he's pressing full ham on you, do you give him a good shove to get him off you"?
Yes, always nudge the nuisance, though in my country this might get one killed.


I don't think it has anything to do with lack of getting a memo...(I know what you mean)...I think it has to do with lack of common sense or manners. Sure, we learn them from parents, etc...but I think for the most part, it's common sense thinking to hold the door for one behind you, giving up your seat for another, etc....but what was told to me.."what is common sense to you is not common sense to another."
Which is why jails are full....they though it was common sense to rob, kill, steal, etc. someone!

***I have two watch dogs for sale....their names are Timex and Rolex.
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bsrosenfeld



Joined: 25 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:10 am    Post subject: Give it Up! Reply with quote

I always give up my seat to any elderly person or any woman for that matter. I was raised to have manners and be chivalrous and I will continue to do so.

When I first started working in the office at school my co-teacher commented that I did not have to hold the door open for others, let women have the right of way, help people carry their books etc. But I continued on as I normally would and within weeks I noticed a difference amongst my co-workers. It looks like my manners rubbed off on them and now they help each other in the same way.

If you are going to live in a Confucian society, one must abide by the Golden Rule.
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hellofaniceguy



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chivalry dead?
Do you believe in women's lib?
Equal rights?
Change your own damm flat tire then my buddy tells them!
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Give it Up! Reply with quote

bsrosenfeld wrote:
If you are going to live in a Confucian society, one must abide by the Golden Rule.


That's contradictory. Confucianism is all about higher/lower status ad acting according to such.
Golden Rule is about equality.

Confucianism makes it OK to treat those below you like dog poo.
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bsrosenfeld



Joined: 25 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curiosaboutkorea: You're absolutely correct about the hierarchal structure of a Confucian society. No arguments there. But the Golden Rule is what allows this structure to work and what compels those of a higher status to treat their subordinates fairly.

This is evident in the concept of ren; compassion or loving others. Confucius regards loving others as a calling and a mission for which one should be ready to die (Lunyu 15.9).

Now I certainly don't think that the world should necessarily adopt these principles and return to the past, but I do believe many of the world's problems, big and small, can be avoided if people took a second to think about their actions and their repercussions.
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Kurtz



Joined: 05 Jan 2007
Location: ples bilong me

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a pain in the neck getting out of my dong, the bus is usually full and it's oleh! I got a seat.

Invariably an older statesmen will get on, most young Koreans will be staring out the window or ignoring the old timer. Don't tell me about this Confucian society, the younger generation don't seem to give a hoot.

I get up not for Korean culture, but for my own conscience, and in a small way to show these people the humble foreigner isn't such a bad sort as they may think.
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T-J



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul EunpyungGu Yeonsinnae

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw this on Facebook this morning and it made me think of this thread.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aWoBeGRcds
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

T-J wrote:
Saw this on Facebook this morning and it made me think of this thread.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aWoBeGRcds


That old guy should go into the superhero business......The Beard of Justice!
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1. Koreans like to tell us how much they repsect the elderly, but it's no different to what I am used to.

I got soured when I got on buses or subways with a busted elbow, a banged up ankle, visibly limping, and no one offered up their seat. I now only give it up to someone who looks quite worse for wear. Like they can't stay standing for long.

Also, I look up and down to see how many people who are several years younger than me. They should be the first ones.

eamo wrote:
Eh, it's not just a Korean custom you know.......anyone with decent manners would do the same thing where I'm from (Britain/Ireland).
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kurtz wrote:
It's a pain in the neck getting out of my dong


LOL Korea is one of the few places where this makes sense
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bsrosenfeld



Joined: 25 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be the change you want to see in the world. - Ghandi

Now let's have the admins change the 25 post for e-mail policy. 5 more and I'll become a real boy.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Korean custom to give up your seat" Rolling Eyes

I call Troll OP Mad
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