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chickenpie

Joined: 24 Dec 2008

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject:

thoreau wrote:

Remember that there are numerous documented cases of the FBI putting agents in crowds to provoke violent behavior.

Welcome to the USA!

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:36 am Post subject:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-propaganda.html

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:02 pm Post subject:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/12/AR2010041203358.html

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ALBANY, N.Y. -- Opponents of the fiscally conservative tea party movement say they plan to infiltrate and dismantle the political group by trying to make its members appear to be racist, homophobic and moronic.

Jason Levin, creator ofhttp://www.crashtheteaparty.org, said Monday the group has 65 leaders in major cities across the country who are trying to recruit members to infiltrate tea party events for April 15 - tax filing day, when tea party groups across the country are planning to gather and protest high taxes.

Classy.

Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009

Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject:

mises wrote:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-propaganda.html

Oh come on. If there's one thing that's the media hasn't done, it's understating the Tea Parties. This "movement" of irrational, confused people has gotten utterly pampered with media attention, and has even been actively promoted by Fox.

mises

Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:35 am Post subject:

Fox wrote:

mises wrote:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-propaganda.html

That looked like dozens to you? Fox News has ran the most positive coverage about them. This has worked for the Republicans quite well as the TP types will look to Fox as trustworthy and accept their spin on things. On balance, the non-Fox media has been extremely unfair. The campaign to slur them as racists etc has been extremely effective.

I agree that they're confused. It started with Ron Paul and moved to Sarah Palin. That is very irrational.

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:59 am Post subject:

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I agree that they're confused. It started with Ron Paul and moved to Sarah Palin. That is very irrational.

Did they really start with Paul and end up at Palin? Or have their always just been these two strands in the movement? I'm asking because I really don't know much about the deep history of the Tea Party. For the most part, I've always just kind of written it off, rightly or wrongly, as a front for the Republican establishment.

.38 Special

Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:18 am Post subject:

Fox wrote:

mises wrote:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-propaganda.html

If this is your idea of promotion, sir, then I'll not have you promoting for me! No, sir, I won't!

.38 Special

Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:24 am Post subject:

The tea party is a grassroots upswelling. Neither did it begin or end up with actual leadership.

Paul, however, has been its cheerleader long before the media knew it existed.

Palin is simply the cancer that follows unchecked growth. The fact that people think she's in charge is the total sum of her apparently successful illusion.

She has plenty of allies. Opponents of the tea parties fall over themselves to portray Palin as fearless leader. In reality, Palin sees this as her only chance to be elected to federal office, and so she was first out of the mainstream to lend the groups legitimacy.

Truly a devil's bargain if ever there was one.

On the other hand wrote:

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I agree that they're confused. It started with Ron Paul and moved to Sarah Palin. That is very irrational.

Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:12 pm Post subject:

mises wrote:

Fox wrote:

mises wrote:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-propaganda.html

I would rather have Ron Paul than Sarah Palin or even Obama. At least, Paul would extricate the military from Afghanistan and Iraq and start cutting some necessary costs to save the country, but, I firmly, believe taxes need to be raised to deal with major budgetary concerns.

The fact that the Tea Party takes Sarah Palin seriously is alarming. It shows too many people haven't learned from the failures of the Bush presidency. He, like Palin, appealed to religiousity, and he, like her, paid little attention to foreign affairs while being governor and was very ignorant about the world. Too many people who would vote Tea Party think it's fine to get on the job training about world affairs and current events for the post of presidency of the world's most powerful country. It's insane.

bucheon bum

Joined: 16 Jan 2003

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:15 pm Post subject:

Adventurer wrote:

Too many people who would vote Tea Party think it's fine to get on the job training about world affairs and current events for the post of presidency of the world's most powerful country. It's insane.

Yes, I do agree that is a valid criticism of the tea party folks.

Fox

Joined: 04 Mar 2009

Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:19 pm Post subject:

mises wrote:

Fox wrote:

mises wrote:

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2010/03/american-propaganda.html

That looked like dozens to you?

No, but that's a single questionable example of under-coverage being used to "prove" under-coverage, in contrast which the huge amount of over-coverage that's being ignored. Overall, the media really couldn't have pampered these guys more, a few trivial examples aside.

Pro-health care reform rallies got under-covered by the media. Tea Parties by contrast got massively overcovered, and overall the propaganda spouted regarding them was more good than bad.

The Happy Warrior

Joined: 10 Feb 2010

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject:

The Incoherent and Self-Interested Nature of the Tea Party

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�Personal responsibility� has been a great conservative theme in recent decades, in response to the growth of the welfare state. It is a common theme among TPPs�even in response to health-care reform, as if losing your job and then getting cancer is something you shouldn�t have allowed to happen to yourself. But these days, conservatives far outdo liberals in excusing citizens from personal responsibility. To the TPPs, all of our problems are the fault of the government, and the government is a great �other,� a hideous monster over which we have no control. It spends our money and runs up vast deficits for mysterious reasons all its own. At bottom, this is a suspicion not of government but of democracy. After all, who elected this monster?

This kind of talk is doubly self-indulgent. First, it�s just not true. Second, it�s obviously untrue. The government�s main function these days is writing checks to old people. These checks allow people to retire and pursue avocations such as going to Tea Party rallies. This basic fact about the government is no great secret. In fact, it�s a huge clich� . . . . But the Tea Party Patriots feel free to ignore it and continue serving up rhetoric about �the audaciousness and arrogance of our government,� and calling for the elimination of the Federal Reserve Board or drastic restraints on the power of the Internal Revenue Service.

Principled libertarianism is an interesting and even tempting idea. If we wanted to, we could radically reduce the scope of government�defend the country, give poor people enough money to live decently, and leave it at that. But this isn�t the TPP vision. The TPP vision is that you can keep your Medicare benefits and balance the budget by ending congressional earmarks, and perhaps the National Endowment for the Arts.

I don't think calling for the elimination of the Fed is self-indulgent, but other than that, these people seem much more self-indulgent and incoherent than principled libertarians. Moreover, while there are good grounds for arguing our gov't is broken and unable to properly represent the people, I don't think the Tea Party is an effective vehicle for that platform.

visitorq

Joined: 11 Jan 2008

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:14 am Post subject:

On the other hand wrote:

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I agree that they're confused. It started with Ron Paul and moved to Sarah Palin. That is very irrational.

Yes it undoubtedly started with Ron Paul (and other real libertarians) - before it was even dubbed the Tea Party, he was giving massive rallies, which eventually became what they did. Until the Republican party and Glenn Beck blatantly stepped in and hijacked it that is. They simply usurped the name. But Ron Paul is still doing what he's doing, so none of the hypocrisy on their side really rubs off on him at all, despite all the media slander.

Privateer

Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject:

.38 Special wrote:

The tea party is a grassroots upswelling.

I think there's a cream for that. [drumroll!]

On the other hand

Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 12:17 am Post subject:

My favorite line from the Kinsley piece...

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The government�s main function these days is writing checks to old people. These checks allow people to retire and pursue avocations such as going to Tea Party rallies.

And this anecdote...

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�I like what they�re saying. It�s common sense,� a random man-in-the-crowd told a Los Angeles Times reporter at a big Tea Party rally. Then he added, �They�ve got to focus on issues like keeping jobs here and lowering the cost of prescription drugs.� These, of course, are projects that can be conducted only by Big Government. If the Tea Party Patriots ever developed a coherent platform or agenda, they would lose half their supporters.

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