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[Darkray16]

My laptop:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/product_customed.php?pid=258533
It's a beast, like a Hummer being fed jetfuel.
End of conversation.

[eamo]

I can't say I'm that impressed with new line of Macbookpro's coming out soon.

http://www.dailytech.com/UPDATE+Apple+Announces+New+Core+i5+Core+i7+MacBook+Pros/article18114.htm

The new 15" MacBook Pro is now available with 2.4GHz ($1,799) and 2.53GHz ($1,999) Core i5 processors -- a 2.66GHz Core i7 model is also available ($2,199). The base model brings with it a 320GB hard drive while the middle child gets a 500GB hard drive. Both models come equipped with an NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M (256MB) graphics card. The Core i7 model comes with a 500GB hard drive and a 512MB version of the GeForce GT 330M. All three models have Intel HD integrated graphics, 4GB of RAM and an internal battery rated at 8 to 9 hours.
Finally, we come to the 17" MacBook Pro. This $2,299 model comes with an Intel Core i5 processor clocked at 2.53GHz. It features 4GB of memory, a 500GB hard drive, Intel HD integrated graphics, a 512MB NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M graphics card and battery life of 8 to 9 hours.

So the 17'' MBP gets an i5 @ 2.5ghz, 4GB RAM and an Nvidia GT330m graphics.......dear me, no.....very last year.......for $2300!!! All I can say is that these new MBP had better have the most shiny and sleek exteriors ever!!

[Andro]

Must have a web cam.

[dgove]

haha i love how any conversation about computers turns into Apple bashing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I'm not saying much other than my own personal experience. I have a bottom of the line, plain jane, 2008 macbook. I bought it brand new for 1000 bucks with a student discount and got a free ipod with it. I don't do any fancy movie making, or anything like that, which is why I got the basic model. I've never had any viruses like my desktop has countlessly received. It's never just frozen, like my desktop has done, and at the most frustrating of times too. It's operating system is a cinch, and even my girlfriend who has never used a mac, was saying how much she loved it after letting her use it to type her paper and search and save web articles. And one more feature macs have that I love is how things just WORK. I don't mean to say that they don't work on other computers, but here is an example. My girlfriend bought herself and me an Iriver. She has a netbook, I obviously have this mac. She says "Oh noooo I can't use it because I can't use the installation disc for my Iriver (since no CD Drive with netbook) I said "Check this out, I won't even need it." Plugged the Iriver in, and bam, instantly was click and dragging songs from Itunes into the Iriver icon and in less than 3 minutes had my Itunes library on the Iriver. She was amazed. With my desktop, I would have to install the disc first, same goes for my camera, and any other device. With the macbook, installation discs are obsolete, I just plug whatever in, and instantly start transferring.

Was it worth 1,000 dollars? Maybe, maybe not. But it's nearly 3 years old, and I don't see myself getting a new computer until it dies.

[Senior]

She probably wouldn't have needed the install disc for the netbook either. At what time since the turn of the century has any piece of hardware needed an install disc?

[dc'79]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/macbook-pro-macbooks-core-7,10191.html

A quick comparison of laptops that compete with the new MBP series.

[eamo]

[dgove]

[quote="Senior"]She probably wouldn't have needed the install disc for the netbook either. At what time since the turn of the century has any piece of hardware needed an install disc?[/quote]

Sorry, I didn't not realize you don't need them anymore. My macbook replaced my desktop nearly 3 years ago, and 3 years ago I still needed installation discs with it. It's been the only computer I've had since then, and I'm not a techno geek (not saying that offensively) so can't say I read up on all the new computers out and their features. So I guess....2007, 7 years since the turn of the century we still needed installation discs? My other points still stand though. Just out of curiosity, how much does a good virus scan cost?

The only reason I'm even posting in this thread is that I need 25 posts to PM on the buy/sell haha

[eamo]

[crescent]

If Mac users are so hinged on appearance, why has Windows turned to such a flashy interface? Any PC, or laptop made is made to look good, with branding and marketting. It's not just Apple. Look around. Apple didn't hire the Rolling Stones to sing their jingle.

I bought a mac, not because they look good, but because Windows is a hard-drive heavy, inefficient, virus protection needing, file fragment prone, hardware driverless, OSX mimicking, more unstable operating system.
For me, time is money. Any money I spent on Mac, I save on lost time with Windows PCs.

It's not that mac users believe Windows PCs are always getting viruses, it's just that we don't need the issue at all. It's not that anti-virus is now free, or easy to set up.... it's why need one at all? This is the reflection of a great OS?

It's not that defragmenting takes little time, but it's... since when does the mark of a good OS require the user to do it?

You want to change languages on a mac? No download and installation needed.

You want to run that old obscure audio software? No error message pops up telling you that you need yet another hardware driver.

What's that? Windows 7 uses over 20gigs of disc space as opposed to 5 with OSX? Well, it's bigger, so that's better? Why the lack of drivers then?

Windows users can thank Apple that they finally have an OS to match most of the features on OSX. Too bad it still inefficient.

I gladly pay more for mac. Because now, all the little headaches I had as a PC user are a thing of the past, and I haven't even gone into the third party software issues that Emo praises for it's functionality.

Options. Who cares about options when so many of those options are crap. I can get anything I want, and it's usually the best in the industry.

Most Mac users were once longtime Windows users, yet most Mac critics have never used mac for more than a few hours at the very most, and you call US snobby?

[dgove]

[quote="eamo"]

I have absolutely no problem with people buying Mac's.....they are indeed well made computers......the contentious issues are the price of Mac's compared to Windows computers and the smug attitude of Mac users who believe owning a Mac makes them 'cool' and 'alternative'........i.e. People who bought the Apple marketing spiel....[/quote]


Kinda funny you said that, because it seems to me you are the one who has the smug attitude and thinks he's cool by bashing a computer brand.

And I think the fact I didn't know virus scans are free speaks volumes. The last time I had to concern myself with one was...before I bought a mac.

Why does it never work when I try to quote...

[eamo]

I'm not going to go around the same old bush with the same old arguments.

If you like Macs and think they're worth the money, and believe that PC's are as bad as you say they are, then I can't really argue with you.......because you're not facing facts.

There are fundamental facts involved here. Like the differences between price for similar spec computers. Like the fact that PC's are actually reliable and don't in fact suffer from all the flaws you attribute to them......two things that Macheads refuse to recognize. I can't actually engage you in argument until you get up to date, informed and realistic about PC's in 2010.

[crescent]

[eamo]

[dgove]

Like I said before, it's funny you mentioned Mac users are smug, because the only smug one here implying we aren't as intelligent as the PC user is you.


You keep talking about Windows 7. Ok man, imagine this.

10 years ago you bought a TV. After 6 months, the TV works half as good as it used to. Bad TV shows you watched to have slowed it down significantly. 2 years later you buy another TV. It works pretty good, but you have to buy software for the TV to make it keep working good, and still, after a year or so, it runs about half as fast, and it just keeps freezing in the middle of your TV show. After that you buy yet another TV. It's better than the last one, but still needs software to protect it from things that will make it run slow, and it still freezes every now and then. It's not that simple to use, and can really just piss you off sometimes.

THEN, a new company makes a new kind of TV. You read the reviews, it sounds amazing. So you spend a few extra hundred dollars, and buy it. Wow, this TV is great!!!

Then, a few years later, you are still using the new TV. And the old TV company says "Hey, come back to us! We promise we fixed the TV's AGAIN, and this time, they work just as good as that new company!" And a bunch of people, who apparently for no reason other than they have to much time on their hands and worry about what YOU do with YOUR money tell you that the sucky TV's are better too.

Would you stick with the company that has worked perfectly, or would you just give up the TV you love, and risk trying yet ANOTHER TV from that shitty company?

I typed this really quick before I go to work, so if there is a typo, and you try to use that as an argument, you are a douche.

This is basically the same situation, is it not? Believe me man, I wasn't born with a Mac in my hand. I switched after using PC's for a long time. You can't bullshit a bullshitter, when you say you haven't had a virus in 7 years, come on man, don't lie just to make a point. I've only had a Mac for 3 years, before that I had a PC like everyone else. I know the problems they had first hand, don't try to tell me what I've seen and experienced with them. if they FINALLY have it right, then great, I hope you are happy. But I really don't understand why someone would go on an internet crusade and tell people they shouldn't buy a Mac. It is OUR money man, I can buy what I want. Do you got Banana Republic and start telling everyone there they are dumb for buying clothes that are more expensive than Old Navy but do the same thing? Or go to Wal-Mart and yell at people for buying name brand instead of generic. Get off your high horse and chill out. It's a damn computer, and the only one who cares about what other people use in this conversation is YOU.

Your technical talk doesn't mean anything to me, I really don't know much about computers other than when it doesn't work, I get angry. My mac makes me happy. End of discussion for me. Later guys.