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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Is this a common expression Reply with quote

I heard a weather song for elementary and they used the following expressions:

Get Downpour
In like a lamb out like a lion

along with common ones my country uses like:

its freezing
Hot and humid

Are they common expressions in America or Canada? I have never heard them before.

I have heard have a downpour or will be a downpour.
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warmachinenkorea



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this a common expression Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:

In like a lamb out like a lion


This one is backwards, In like a lion out like a lamb. It's used to describe March. The others I think are odd also
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T-J



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

March, in like a lion, out like a lamb. Is a common one I'm familiar with.
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Andro



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard 'March, in like a lion, out like a lamb' in Louisiana. When I heard it, I did a double-take.
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, that makes sense then.

Its not being used in the correct sentence. You really need to learn it as a set of expressions then.
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Steve_Rogers2008



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Is this a common expression Reply with quote

Summer Wine wrote:


Are they common expressions in America or Canada? I have never heard them before.

I have heard have a downpour or will be a downpour.




It's crazy.... "smoking a fag" means something much different depending on what side of the Atlantic youre on.... Wink
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Get downpour" sounds pure Konglish to me (I only know English English).

That's right up there with a co-teacher who once sidelined one of my lessons and proceeded to teach the kids: "Let's Post Office."
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daskalos



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
"Get downpour" sounds pure Konglish to me (I only know English English).

That's right up there with a co-teacher who once sidelined one of my lessons and proceeded to teach the kids: "Let's Post Office."


And I only know N. Am. English, so "get downpour" must be Konglish, 'cause I've never heard it.

Let's post office? Oh god, has verb-ing found its way even to the pronvinces?
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schwa



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common expression in central Canada re: march, applied either way depending on how the month starts.

In like a lion, out like a lamb.
In like a lamb, out like a lion.
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sesyeux



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've never heard the lion thing before. it's weird that these expressions are being taught. what happened to 'it's raining cats and dogs'?
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daskalos wrote:
oldfatfarang wrote:
"Get downpour" sounds pure Konglish to me (I only know English English).

That's right up there with a co-teacher who once sidelined one of my lessons and proceeded to teach the kids: "Let's Post Office."


And I only know N. Am. English, so "get downpour" must be Konglish, 'cause I've never heard it.

Let's post office? Oh god, has verb-ing found its way even to the pronvinces?


This was in A PS in Seoul. I couldn't correct her, she was my boss, and she treated me as a tape recorder. I just let it go and am still laughing about it years later.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
"Get downpour" sounds pure Konglish to me (I only know English English).


used with an article:
We got a downpour yesterday I've heard it spoken in Canada.
If an expression seems strange, check for missing articles, they're often dropped here.

Quote:
Common expression in central Canada re: march, applied either way depending on how the month starts.

In like a lion, out like a lamb.
In like a lamb, out like a lion.

I've heard that a lot too.
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Summer Wine



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so its definitely a North American expression. I wasn't sure and didn't want to state anything about it until I knew more.

Thanks all, I have now been educated.

I tend to try and teach both North American and Commonwealth spelling and expressions incase they run into either of them. Though I am more conversant with Commonwealth expressions and spelling than North American.
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pangaea



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, "get downpour" sounds like Konglish. You could say, "Yesterday we had a downpour" or "Tomorrow we are supposed to get a downpour." Sometimes it's also used as a verb, as in, "It downpoured this afternoon." Not saying that the use is grammatically correct and the word "downpour" may be a word that is used only in certain regions. Now that I think about it, I'm not sure it's an official word at all. Looking at the English language objectively reminds me of how strange it can be.
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Ralphie



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re.: OP's query about the expression...I think "lion" and "lamb" could be used in either context, because it depends on the weather at the beginning and the end of March.

"In like a lion, out like a lamb." -->meaning: blast of cold, winter-like weather at beginning of March followed by warm, spring-like weather at end of March.

"In like a lamb, out like a lion." -->meaning: warm, spring-like weather at beginning of March followed by blast of cold, winter-like weather at end of March.
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