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Uncle Turk



Joined: 03 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject: Government laws regarding students in school Reply with quote

Most of the post here are about teachers rights and information about schools in general. I am inquiring to whether there is a site which lists rights a student have in the educational system.

Is corporal punishment legal in the school setting? Obviously I know that it happens regardless, but wondering about legal matters.
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Ramen



Joined: 15 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Government laws regarding students in school Reply with quote

Uncle Turk wrote:

Is corporal punishment legal in the school setting? Obviously I know that it happens regardless, but wondering about legal matters.


Students can always file a complain and/or sue the school.

Now, the students have more rights than their teachers. The students and their parents now have the power to evaluate the teachers.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The use of corporal punishment is wide-spread in all Korean PS (and some hagwons).

It used to be that corporal punishment was illegal - but Korean PS teachers could use it "for the benefit of the student's education" (or some other BS). I'm not sure what the law is now.

Interestingly: some teachers in my new school carry sticks - and others have them in the classroom. However, recently one teacher got a certificate of responsibility 'to stop 'violence' in the school. Go figure.

I have to say I enjoy teaching here more than my last PS's, as kids aren't brought into the teachers' room to be beaten, and I can walk the halls without having to see kids spread eagled up against a wall and being beaten with truncheons or 5 foot lengths of wood.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are differences in what Koreans consider corporal punishment and what foreigners consider it. Students know what is considered acceptable, and if it isn't, would probably complain about it to their parents and appropriate action would be taken.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
There are differences in what Koreans consider corporal punishment and what foreigners consider it.


Such as? Confused

Quote:
Students know what is considered acceptable...


Are you sure?
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Uncle Turk



Joined: 03 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students know what is considered acceptable...

I wonder if this is the case in the Principal bashing students' heads with bibles?

I thought I heard that corporal punishment was illegal, but still happens since no one reports it. I'm sure extreme cases would be though. If anyone could find out for sure that be awesome, my Korean abilities are quite low.

Hit students on head with bible, check
Make them stand with hands in air, check
Have them do pushups with their head, check
Hitting them with wooden sticks, check
Am I forgetting something?
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Manuel_the_Bandito



Joined: 12 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Students shall sit A,B and C (and D, E, F, G, H...) exams, which will be carefully invigilated and of which careful records will be kept.

Records will be kept of students' attendance.

Students will receive government approved textbooks for all academic subjects.

Students are required to take a certain curriculum of subjects in any given year.

Students shall take an annual medical exam conducted by a government agency.

Beyond that, there aren't really any "laws" to speak of, just flexible regulations.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ThingsComeAround wrote:
jvalmer wrote:
There are differences in what Koreans consider corporal punishment and what foreigners consider it.


Such as? Confused


Hit students on head with bible - depends on how hard and/or why
Make them stand with hands in air - Koreans wouldn't consider this cp
Have them do pushups with their head - Koreans wouldn't consider this cp
Hitting them with wooden sticks - depends on how hard and/or why

If you consider making students keep their hands in the air too harsh of a punishment, then you're too soft. Also, many Koreans take into account the reason why a student was punished to determine if it warrants a complaint to higher authorities.


ThingsComeAround wrote:

Quote:
Students know what is considered acceptable...


Are you sure?

Pretty sure, otherwise you would never hear of teachers in the news for going overboard, and you wouldn't see some things on the internet.
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jvalmer



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Turk wrote:
Students know what is considered acceptable...

I wonder if this is the case in the Principal bashing students' heads with bibles?


If you heard about it and some parent came in complaining about it, then it wasn't acceptable.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Turk wrote:
Students know what is considered acceptable...

I wonder if this is the case in the Principal bashing students' heads with bibles?

I thought I heard that corporal punishment was illegal, but still happens since no one reports it. I'm sure extreme cases would be though. If anyone could find out for sure that be awesome, my Korean abilities are quite low.

Hit students on head with bible, check
Make them stand with hands in air, check
Have them do pushups with their head, check
Hitting them with wooden sticks, check
Am I forgetting something?


Yes, you forgot beating children with:
- heavy wooden truncheons
- metal golf club shafts
- rough cut pieces of wood
- bamboo canes
-wooden paddles
- alkathene plastic pipe
- branches from trees
- metal rods

And, lets not forget :
- punching children in the stomach with closed fists
- punching children on the head (bursting eardrums)
- jumping on chidrens' feet
- twisting childrens' ears

Corporal punishment (and violence against students) is widespread in the K education system.

If you don't believe any of the above - have a talk to some middle or high school students about what really happens to them.
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