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jacksthirty



Joined: 30 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Technical High School Woes Reply with quote

Anyone here working (or worked) for a Technical High School? I'm completely stumped with what to teach them! I've worked in middle schools, but everything I do seems to fail. I think maybe 1 out of 5 lesson plans work and the rest just tank.

The main problem is the lack of motivation of the students. They just expect to be spoon fed the work. If it requires any aspect of thinking then they just switch off. Their level is low, and their English book is way over their heads.

I would appreciate any suggestions for lesson plans or other ideas other than quitting!
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Zulethe



Joined: 04 Jul 2008

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When is your contract up? I'd really like to teach at a technical high school. Maybe we can swap schools.
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firsty do you have a Korean Co-Teacher who joins you to Co-teach Every lesson. It's important that he/she joins you for every lesson because once you agree to teach one of two lessons alone you have already opened the door for him and other teachers to skip out of your lessons.

Do you have adequate technology- Can you use Powerpoint in the Classroom can you play flash games like Baam or Fling the Teacher. These can be found on EFL Classroom 2.0 Ning. These things can really spice up what would otherwise be boring lessons. You can also use Kareoke through Karafun also linked to EFL Classroom 2.0 ning ( Google it) Don't settle for just using work sheets Empower yourself.

It's also really important that your co-teacher is not sleeping, or text messaging during class. He/She should be active controlling the students behavour or assisting you in Translating difficult material.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it takes about 6 months to adjust. For some teachers almost 2 years (If you can last that long).

They're much lower than you think. Middle school level doesn't fly. And your gonna have to come up with a completely different teaching methodology, with these kinds of students, traditional approaches just don't work.

You should focus on elementary level vocab: colors, numbers, ranking, phonics, body parts, prepositions, etc.

They can't do any of those backwards construction stuff. Like here's the answer, match it to the question. And anything beyond I like _____ is pushing it.

Stick with a lot of task based stuff: worksheets, projects, group work. If you have to say more than 2 sentences, don't even bother. They won't understand / remember what you said before.

You'll need your KET to manage discipline. Its the biggest problem in tech schools, if I leave my students alone for too long with nothing to do. They're start brawling with each other. My first week, I broke up 3 fights. The full on fist fights with knees flying into heads.

Their level depends on your school. My students were brain dead during middle school, and late elementary school. So they're foundation is filled with holes. If your lucky, your students were awake during elementary school
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Captain Obvious



Joined: 23 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should count your blessings. You only have to see a really bad class once a week. Korean teachers have to deal with them three, four or five times a week.
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winterfall



Joined: 21 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Obvious wrote:
You should count your blessings. You only have to see a really bad class once a week. Korean teachers have to deal with them three, four or five times a week.


They're not "Bad" kids, they just hate school.
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bcjinseoul



Joined: 13 Jan 2010
Location: Seoul, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I worked at a technical high school once...first and last time for that. And yes, the level is LLOOOOWWWWWW. So I had to make really easy lesson plans, power points, and handouts. Had my coteachers translate a lot too...they HAD to, believe me. No more tech high schools for me, thank you.
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gregoriomills



Joined: 02 Mar 2009
Location: Busan, Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One website I found helpful the WHOLE year when I was teaching at a tekkie last year was www.eslenglishclassroom.com.

Basically its vocabulary, but you can base many worksheets, word scrambles, etc, right off these powerpoints. I give them a black sheet with numbers down the page for however many words were in the lesson. I would go through the powerpoints and make them write down both the English AND Korean. Wastes a lot of time, and they seemed to do a lot better in "worksheet" mode.

Also, my high schoolers LOVED Mr. Bean last year, even though I thought they were too old for it. Just make a worksheet asking simple questions about the videos, watch the 20-25 min vid, then go over the answers, reviewing, etc, easily a 45 - 50 min lesson.

The game BAAM also worked for me. And Jeopardy, but be careful about using games too much, maybe once a month or so, you can fill a lesson with a game. They loved scattergories, too (although do it very simply).
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eslville



Joined: 21 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just curious, Zulethe... why would someone want to work at a technical high school? Not saying it's bad, but I am trying to grasp why someone would want to?

As for the OP, if I were you, I'd just take it very very slow and very very easy. These kids probably don't see much point to learning English. So, just try to let them enjoy themselves, find out what they're interested in (probably video games) and try to incorporate that stuff in.

Your first research assignment: study computer games! Not so bad?! Very Happy
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Sadebugo1



Joined: 11 May 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Technical High School Woes Reply with quote

jacksthirty wrote:
Anyone here working (or worked) for a Technical High School? I'm completely stumped with what to teach them! I've worked in middle schools, but everything I do seems to fail. I think maybe 1 out of 5 lesson plans work and the rest just tank.

The main problem is the lack of motivation of the students. They just expect to be spoon fed the work. If it requires any aspect of thinking then they just switch off. Their level is low, and their English book is way over their heads.

I would appreciate any suggestions for lesson plans or other ideas other than quitting!


Yikes! When I was working for EPIK in '96, they asked me to visit a technical high school as a guest speaker. All the kids were brought into an auditorium where I was scheduled to give a speech. They began shouting and screaming at the top of their lungs and the teachers couldn't control them. I stopped speaking a few times because no one was listening but the principal told me to just keep talking. Later on, I asked the co-teacher at my school how Korea had such high averages on test scores with students like that. He told me they didn't permit those students to take the national exams. Not sure if that's true or not but I don't see why he would have lied about it.

Anyway, I can't imagine teaching on one of those schools if that one was any indication.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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Aoisagi



Joined: 21 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excuse me for being a newb Embarassed but what does a technical high school refer to? It has nothing to do with a lack of technology right? Is it a school with delinquents?
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Sadebugo1



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aoisagi wrote:
Excuse me for being a newb Embarassed but what does a technical high school refer to? It has nothing to do with a lack of technology right? Is it a school with delinquents?


Well, I think the idea is to train them for employment that doesn't require a university degree. I imagine some students with poor behavior end up there as well because they were not successful in the academic high schools.

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
Location: On the mainland again

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aoisagi wrote:
Excuse me for being a newb Embarassed but what does a technical high school refer to? It has nothing to do with a lack of technology right? Is it a school with delinquents?


Just those that are not good at studying with either lower IQ's or behavioural issues. I asked a korean teacher what kind of jobs the girls would end up doing when they left Technical school (its called industrial school where I am), he looked kinda embarassed and said probably Hostess bars.
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jvalmer



Joined: 06 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

southernman wrote:
Aoisagi wrote:
Excuse me for being a newb Embarassed but what does a technical high school refer to? It has nothing to do with a lack of technology right? Is it a school with delinquents?


Just those that are not good at studying with either lower IQ's or behavioural issues. I asked a korean teacher what kind of jobs the girls would end up doing when they left Technical school (its called industrial school where I am), he looked kinda embarassed and said probably Hostess bars.



Don't forget hairdressers and the wide range of service jobs. Also, many will marry some guy of similar economic status and the two will scrape by paycheck to paycheck. Wait a minute, sounds like your average citizen in most countries.
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southernman



Joined: 15 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jvalmer wrote:
southernman wrote:
Aoisagi wrote:
Excuse me for being a newb Embarassed but what does a technical high school refer to? It has nothing to do with a lack of technology right? Is it a school with delinquents?


Just those that are not good at studying with either lower IQ's or behavioural issues. I asked a korean teacher what kind of jobs the girls would end up doing when they left Technical school (its called industrial school where I am), he looked kinda embarassed and said probably Hostess bars.



Don't forget hairdressers and the wide range of service jobs. Also, many will marry some guy of similar economic status and the two will scrape by paycheck to paycheck. Wait a minute, sounds like your average citizen in most countries.


Actually thats how I put the qusetion to him, Will the female students become hairdressers etc in the future... thats when he said, and he did look embarassed, no they will probably work in Hostess bars. But I do agree with you most of them will live their lives like most people do in all countries.

It's almost like he has to say the most brutally honest thing he can during our discussions about Korea and its society. He's been out of the army less than a year so that time (and all the negatives in entails) is still very much with him.

He's a good guy and noticeably more 'chilled' now than when I first met him
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