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gelynch52



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:41 pm    Post subject: Why no responses to hundreds of applications sent? Reply with quote

I post variations of the following cover letter and am getting ZERO responses. What do these schools need for further qualifications? I have indicated a willingness (even a preference) for rural or small town positions that are usually hard to fill. I have a TEFL, BA in English and considerable experience so what is lacking here?

I am an American man with over 7 years of ESL teaching experience in Korea along with short periods in The Philippines and Saudi Arabia. During this time I have taught all levels of students from K through high school and adults.
If I have a preference in teaching assignments it would probably be adults even though the work hours are usually split due to the students own work situation. However, I am willing and able to teach children of virtually any age and consider that the US does not permit a smiling passport photo when looking at my passport.
The fact that I am older then the usual young teacher and that I have an infant son (not traveling with me) will ensure that I am not going to be the typical young guy who stays out all night drinking and comes to work affected by his long nights out.
Please review my attached documents and consider me for a position with your company. I have my transcripts and they are sealed. Rural and small town positions are usually hard to fill in Korea and I am very willing to accept such assignments. In fact, I prefer them so I can use the outdoors for hiking and fishing in my off time although large cities are also just fine with me.
Note that I am a native born American but living in The Philippines and I can realistically be available the 6th of almost any month with proper notice. This location allows for relatively inexpensive airfare.
A response either positive or negative would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
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Banana_Man



Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Why no responses to hundreds of applications sent? Reply with quote

gelynch52 wrote:
consider that the US does not permit a smiling passport photo when looking at my passport

I am not going to be the typical young guy who stays out all night drinking and comes to work affected by his long nights out.

Rural and small town positions are usually hard to fill in Korea


I'm sure this was posted a few months ago - hope it's a troll anyway, if so then I will feed^^; these are why you have no offers.

You write like you know more than the recruiter by telling them rural areas are hard to fill - are you so sure???

Why would you say your passport doesn't have a smile - whose does? Why make a terrible joke about it? It's not funny, it's pointless and it makes the recruiter think you are a douche.

So does saying you will not be drinking. That does not matter to the job - the recruiter doesn't care what you do on your personal time, but since you mention it they will think - hmm, he has a child, maybe he needs to care for the child instead of coming to work...A younger model may be hungover, but he'll probably be at work more as he has less responsibility at home - not saying it's true just what they'll think if you bring up outside responsibilities etc.

Also, I sometimes think recruiters and hagwons want younger, easily lead people who come alone - they are easier to handle, they sign worse contracts, party hard maybe but, put up with a lot of crap that older, non-partiers, with kids would.

Inshort - be less of a D***, limit the information to only job related information - no personal stuff, at least until you start getting offers. Twisted Evil
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highdials5



Joined: 13 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2345560&highlight=#2345560

Why are you posting the same topic again? You had a lot of advice in the previous thread last month.
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your cover letter is too informal and you are using a completely free-speaking form. I would also hold back from talking about your social habits, age, or family members.

I find your resume draws attention to the things you are trying to defend. If you didn't mention them, they might go unnoticed... whereas with your technique the reader might focus more on them.

Take a more formal and professional direction with it, and take the advice of the above poster and don't help the recruiter do their job.
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ThingsComeAround



Joined: 07 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems as though from the second paragraph on you copied what you put on your cover letter. You don't have to send out a "non smiling" passport photo. Just go to any shop and take a photo with you looking friendly.

Next, don't mention family. family means you may have a family crisis (true or not) and you may have to leave faster. Don't mention you live in the Phillippines.

Last, you should know (if you really have worked in Korea) that NO ONE prepares or gives notice when they need something. It is always "I NEED IT DONE YESTERDAY" and making an employer potentially wait until the 6th could be bad. Take that part out also.

If I were you, I'd soften the tone of your letter. It sounds desperate. Write specific letters (with your middle name) and send them out so people will get an idea of what fits your ideal situation. You can teach all ages. Great. Not everyone wants to hear that. Sounds too generic
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reference Reply with quote

Delete every single reference to the Philippines and then resubmit.
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand the job market to be getting tight. I applied like 20 times, before accepting my job back in January and arriving late February. It took 6 weeks due a communication incompetency. I've been reading ESL forums for many other countries such as Taiwan and they say it's increasingly getting tight. I wouldn't doubt if the OP gets rejection for experience or clearly coming off as having initiative and interpersonal power. They don't want someone who leads and takes charge, they want someone who bows to every request without questioning authority as if institutionalized. It appears so colorful, Western, and free on the surface, but things are not what they visually appear to be from our perspective.
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vaticanhotline



Joined: 18 Jun 2009
Location: in the most decent sometimes sun

PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AsiaESLbound wrote:
I understand the job market to be getting tight. I applied like 20 times, before accepting my job back in January and arriving late February. It took 6 weeks due a communication incompetency. I've been reading ESL forums for many other countries such as Taiwan and they say it's increasingly getting tight. I wouldn't doubt if the OP gets rejection for experience or clearly coming off as having initiative and interpersonal power. They don't want someone who leads and takes charge, they want someone who bows to every request without questioning authority as if institutionalized. It appears so colorful, Western, and free on the surface, but things are not what they visually appear to be from our perspective.


No, it's like what everyone else has said-the dude can't write a coherent cover letter.
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thegadfly



Joined: 01 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um...highdial's link back to the original thread with pages of advice and an explanation of why you probably did not get any responses should answer your question -- or are you hoping to be told something different this time around?
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Groznyji



Joined: 26 Apr 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be frank, and to parrot what others have said, your cover letter is simply no good.

You need to look at examples of professional cover letters. Toss that one and write a new one.

A general guideline I can give you is to not discuss your personal life, especially near the beginning of the letter.

I can give you more specific advice if you'd like. Just PM me.
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caylia



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highdials5 wrote:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2345560&highlight=#2345560

Why are you posting the same topic again? You had a lot of advice in the previous thread last month.


I definitely agree: I read your cover letter, and it's not good. The advice given to you in the last thread is good.

You might want to follow a standard format (like an engineering or scientist cover letter) or some other technical profession. It gets rid of a lot of "personalization", and reduces your emotion down to strictly passion.
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madoka



Joined: 27 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

highdials5 wrote:
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=2345560&highlight=#2345560

Why are you posting the same topic again? You had a lot of advice in the previous thread last month.


I think his cover letter and inability to comprehend (much less rectify) his problems pretty much explains why he's getting rejected.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As my father would say; "focus on strengths, not weaknesses!"
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blonde researcher



Joined: 16 Oct 2006
Location: Globalizing in Korea for the time being

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You say you have 7 years previously working in ESL and in Korea.
Instead of worrying about the cover letter why not look at what might be in your resume?

Do you have any history in Korea such as a p***** off previous director who you ended up in conflict with, even if you finished the contract?
It may be a good idea to recheck what any, (or all) of these Korean references may be saying about you if there were phoned by another prospective employer public school etc.
It is getting very common for recruiters working for public schools and hagwons to get made to phone previously worked in hagwons and schools to check on applicants history. I know for EPIK this year it is mandatory for this checking to take place, before any interview is offered

Why not send your application (without the full details or names of previous employers) and minus some of the other personal details to see if you get any responses.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Why no responses to hundreds of applications sent? Reply with quote

gelynch52 wrote:
I post variations of the following cover letter and am getting ZERO responses. What do these schools need for further qualifications? I have indicated a willingness (even a preference) for rural or small town positions that are usually hard to fill. I have a TEFL, BA in English and considerable experience so what is lacking here?

I am an American man with over 7 years of ESL teaching experience in Korea along with short periods in The Philippines and Saudi Arabia. During this time I have taught all levels of students from K through high school and adults.
If I have a preference in teaching assignments it would probably be adults even though the work hours are usually split due to the students own work situation. However, I am willing and able to teach children of virtually any age and consider that the US does not permit a smiling passport photo when looking at my passport.
The fact that I am older then the usual young teacher and that I have an infant son (not traveling with me) will ensure that I am not going to be the typical young guy who stays out all night drinking and comes to work affected by his long nights out.
Please review my attached documents and consider me for a position with your company. I have my transcripts and they are sealed. Rural and small town positions are usually hard to fill in Korea and I am very willing to accept such assignments. In fact, I prefer them so I can use the outdoors for hiking and fishing in my off time although large cities are also just fine with me.
Note that I am a native born American but living in The Philippines and I can realistically be available the 6th of almost any month with proper notice. This location allows for relatively inexpensive airfare.
A response either positive or negative would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,


change the parts in bold. too much information in some cases, and in others it just makes you sound like you're going to be a difficult-to-handle foreigner, which no recruiter or employer wants.
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