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Please don't drink on the subway!
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Please don't drink on the subway! Reply with quote

Attention all foreigners: (well not everybody, just those of you who drink on the train) Please stop. It is not the done thing. Sure, nobody will stop you. But just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. It is tacky, it is unnecessary, and it makes you look like an ass. Drink at home! Drink on the street or at a family mart! Drink at a bar! Drink at a restaurant! It is not expensive! Ride the train drunk, that is fine!

But please, please, stop drinking on the train. Have some dignity. Have some self-respect. You aren't a wino. Are you?
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crisdean



Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is the bus okay? Smile

But seriously, why do you care if people drink on the train?
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it does look low class, and if it's not done in the target culture, then you should avoid such behavior that is seen as intentionally flaunting the cultural norms of the country. Some of the residents may find the behavior disrespectful even if they don't say anything about it. I, personally, didn't like people holding their drinks and going wherever with in and drinking on the subway. You definitely can't do that in North America without getting arrested. In Korea, you can do that without getting arrested, but it's frowned upon.
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Please don't drink on the subway! Reply with quote

sulperman wrote:
Attention all foreigners: (well not everybody, just those of you who drink on the train) Please stop. It is not the done thing. Sure, nobody will stop you. But just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should. It is tacky, it is unnecessary, and it makes you look like an ass. Drink at home! Drink on the street or at a family mart! Drink at a bar! Drink at a restaurant! It is not expensive! Ride the train drunk, that is fine!

But please, please, stop drinking on the train. Have some dignity. Have some self-respect. You aren't a wino. Are you?


I'm not a wino. I'm a "why, yes!"
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never even thought to drink on the subway. Thanks for the idea! Smile
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen Koreans drunk on the subway as well. The vast majority don't. The vast majority of "foreigners" don't drink on the subway either. If we get some kind of image as subway drinkers, well, I can imagine worse. At least no one's lighting a cigarette.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True, most don't. This is only aimed at those few that do. Though if you regularly take the train through Hongdae on weekend nights like I do, I think you'll find it is a bit more common than you realize.
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KevinLS



Joined: 23 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can take over an hour and a half from where I am in Bundang to the fun places in Seoul. If we can't get started on the train, we'll be way behind by the time we get where we going.

Anyway... maybe tall boys are tacky, but who cares if my friend has some vodka in her Chilsing, and I have gin in little tonic water bottles?
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KevinLS wrote:
It can take over an hour and a half from where I am in Bundang to the fun places in Seoul. If we can't get started on the train, we'll be way behind by the time we get where we going.

Anyway... maybe tall boys are tacky, but who cares if my friend has some vodka in her Chilsing, and I have gin in little tonic water bottles?


You are in the clear in my book. I see no problem with that. It's more the tall boys I was thinking of.
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brento1138



Joined: 17 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what the OP is talking about. I was sitting on a subway a few weeks back, and there were about 10 foreigners speaking loudly and drinking. I knew it would cause problems, but didn't care to warn them (since I didn't think they'd care anyways). I just hoped the other Koreans didn't think I was part of their group.

I was surprised how EVERYONE was looking at them (with disgusted looks)... and the weigooks didn't notice (or care) for the longest time. Of course, eventually some Koreans started complaining to them, annoyed by their loud voices and annoying behavior. They tried their best with their limited English to politely ask the foreigners to be respectful. They were surprisingly good after that.

I was thinking "wow, reminds me of my first couple months in Korea." Even back then, I was embarrassed when my friends did that. It especially reminds me of a time when I was on the subway with 3 girls who "appeared" Korean but they were actually Chinese-American and Gyopo. One adjossi yelled like crazy at them (they deserved it) for being drunk and drinking... let's just say I didn't expect that when I was gonna meet up with them (they were fairly new to Korea, I had been here like 3 years). Luckily I don't hang out with the "fresh off the airplane" crew much anymore, so that doesn't happen often.

Anyhow, true. Newbies, please, don't do it. You look like a high school teenager trying to look cool.
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crisdean



Joined: 04 Feb 2010
Location: Seoul Special City

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so it's the appearence of drinking, not the drinking itself that offends you. do you spell hypocrite/hipocrite with an 'i' or a 'y'?
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Banana_Man



Joined: 01 Mar 2010
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Y

and I agree with the OP - there are so many places ot drink guys, keep it off the subway - take a taxi, between 4 people it's not expensive - you can drink as much as you want.
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Hobophobic



Joined: 16 Aug 2004
Location: Sinjeong negorie mokdong oh ga ri samgyup sal fighting

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...I think if you drink out of the actual liquor container it doesn't reflect well upon any one - Korean or Foreigner

....but mixed in a pop bottle or travel coffee mug like my 11th grade French Immersion teacher did with her daily Vodka brunch is less risque and somewhat unnoticeable unless you are directly next to the person....

....but atleast you might have a hint to or know why you are getting the stink-eye on the subway if you are drinking...damned if I do....I always have to wonder why the sour stare? Do they perhaps think I am doing boongaboonga with the attractive young lady next to me?
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Khenan



Joined: 25 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KevinLS wrote:
It can take over an hour and a half from where I am in Bundang to the fun places in Seoul. If we can't get started on the train, we'll be way behind by the time we get where we going.

Anyway... maybe tall boys are tacky, but who cares if my friend has some vodka in her Chilsing, and I have gin in little tonic water bottles?


learn the bus system... There are express busses from bundang that will get you into Seoul much faster than the trains in pretty much every case.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crisdean wrote:
so it's the appearence of drinking, not the drinking itself that offends you. do you spell hypocrite/hipocrite with an 'i' or a 'y'?


Appearance is everything. As far as I am concerned you can poop your pants on the train, as long as you are wearing a diaper (and I suppose for the purpose of this analogy some sort of smell-guard). As long as others don't know, what is the harm? Same goes for drinking.

I suppose what I should have said originally is that a mixed drink in a soda bottle is cool, but sitting in the old people seats on the train drinking a tall boy is not. Which I have seen (on a full train!)

Hypocrite? Naw, just willing to alter my original opinion. Listening to other peoples' arguments, give and take, and all that.

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