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pangaea



Joined: 20 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: You don't seem like an American... Reply with quote

I have been told this several different times by several of my friends from different countries. I assume this was just an observation or a left-handed compliment of sorts but I'm not sure what the reasoning is. As the comment was often preceded by a snide or negative comment about the U.S, it really started to irritate me more than warm my heart. I will admit that I am probably more liberal than the average American but I am by no means the only one of my species. Apparently I don't fit the stereotype of an American, so rather than think that maybe their stereotype was wrong, they decided I must have spontaneously mutated out of the American ooze.

Has anyone else run into this problem? I still consider these people friends but I have to say I don't understand. I am happy to discuss my country or have a friendly (or not) discussion or debate with anyone at any time. I have no illusions that the U.S. is anywhere near a perfect place. However, it is my home and making negative or insulting comments about my country as if I am not even there, then turning to me as an afterthought and saying, "But you don't seem like an American," is just rude and condescending. Does anyone else have a take on this?
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Considered against the world's stereotypical image of an American, I recommend strongly that you accept it as a well-intended compliment.
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LikeFrostOnRoads



Joined: 09 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it happens quite frequently. It can definitely be frustrating, but the best we can do is continue to be unusual Americans so that someday the stereotype may be broken. My favorite is the "but you seem like a Canadian to me!" when even I, as an American, can't tell the difference most of the time between Canadians and Americans.

But I also think there's a tendency for Americans to walk around with a chip on their shoulder just waiting for someone to complain about the US. We may have to deal with being stereotyped more than the next guy, but we also (generalizing of course Wink ) tend to wrap that stereotype up into a big ball of resentment toward people who have yet to categorize us negatively.

Admittedly though, I sometimes claim other nationalities just so that the conversation doesn't flow to me having to defend my country. While I love the US, sometimes I just want to have a normal conversation. Of course, one should refer to my previous paragraph to understand how that's not necessarily correct thinking.
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oskinny1



Joined: 10 Nov 2006
Location: Right behind you!

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LikeFrostOnRoads wrote:

But I also think there's a tendency for Americans to walk around with a chip on their shoulder just waiting for someone to complain about the US. We may have to deal with being stereotyped more than the next guy, but we also (generalizing of course Wink ) tend to wrap that stereotype up into a big ball of resentment toward people who have yet to categorize us negatively.


It is the constant attack against us that makes many have chips on their shoulders. I am from Texas and once people heard this they were sharpening their claws to have a go at me (especially during the Bush years). Usually for me though, when someone does feel the need to attack my character based on what passport I carry I am able to defend myself and give the offending party perfectly good examples of how their country's folk do the exact same thing

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Admittedly though, I sometimes claim other nationalities just so that the conversation doesn't flow to me having to defend my country.


Lame. Rolling Eyes
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: You don't seem like an American... Reply with quote

pangaea wrote:
I have been told this several different times by several of my friends from different countries. I assume this was just an observation or a left-handed compliment of sorts but I'm not sure what the reasoning is. As the comment was often preceded by a snide or negative comment about the U.S, it really started to irritate me more than warm my heart. I will admit that I am probably more liberal than the average American but I am by no means the only one of my species. Apparently I don't fit the stereotype of an American, so rather than think that maybe their stereotype was wrong, they decided I must have spontaneously mutated out of the American ooze.

Has anyone else run into this problem? I still consider these people friends but I have to say I don't understand. I am happy to discuss my country or have a friendly (or not) discussion or debate with anyone at any time. I have no illusions that the U.S. is anywhere near a perfect place. However, it is my home and making negative or insulting comments about my country as if I am not even there, then turning to me as an afterthought and saying, "But you don't seem like an American," is just rude and condescending. Does anyone else have a take on this?


Just arm yourself with witty comebacks that dig deep
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Steelrails



Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be unapologetic about it. Tell them you voted for Bush. Twice. Then when they get upset accuse them of being intolerant racists. Claim that French Fries are healthier than the local lentil soup. Start singing Lee Greenwood's "Proud to be an American". Say you like Country music. Say that Football is the real football, and unlike soccer you actually use your feet. Say the roads back home are paved in gold.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a little bit of a weird comment like this the other night while out with a Korean girl. I was told on the outside I seem like a foreigner (appearance) but on the inside I seem Korean. I was assured that this was for the best... Rolling Eyes
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teretere



Joined: 26 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of Americans are annoying brats. But the English lads on stag-dos can be as well. Or ignorant Aussies in London.

Hmm....now that I think about, it could be an Anglo thing. Very Happy
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a bit of a backhanded compliment. I prefer the company of people who are not always thinking about my or their nationalities all the time. It's kind of boring - like being with people who do nothing but complain about their jobs over their beer.
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Adventurer



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: You don't seem like an American... Reply with quote

pangaea wrote:
I have been told this several different times by several of my friends from different countries. I assume this was just an observation or a left-handed compliment of sorts but I'm not sure what the reasoning is. As the comment was often preceded by a snide or negative comment about the U.S, it really started to irritate me more than warm my heart. I will admit that I am probably more liberal than the average American but I am by no means the only one of my species. Apparently I don't fit the stereotype of an American, so rather than think that maybe their stereotype was wrong, they decided I must have spontaneously mutated out of the American ooze.

Has anyone else run into this problem? I still consider these people friends but I have to say I don't understand. I am happy to discuss my country or have a friendly (or not) discussion or debate with anyone at any time. I have no illusions that the U.S. is anywhere near a perfect place. However, it is my home and making negative or insulting comments about my country as if I am not even there, then turning to me as an afterthought and saying, "But you don't seem like an American," is just rude and condescending. Does anyone else have a take on this?


Well, you could say, "To me, I seem like I'm an American, we are a diverse country, just as not everyone in country X is the same". Many people are like me. There are some things I like about my country and don't like about it, just like you.

Annoying stereotypes should be avoided. I read about some guy when referencing illegal immigration said if there were millions of Canadian illegals, we could stop people who say "aboot" when they say the word about, though Canadians don't pronounce it like a double o. Also, in parts of West Virginia, if someone is lowed, they might think he is from New Jersey.

Try to be diplomatic about these things, and say you undertand it's a complement, but they would find America is full of people just like you!
So, say, "I assure you, America is full of people just like me".


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withgusto



Joined: 11 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I have been told this several different times by several of my friends from different countries."

They're watching too much television/media or hanging around lame Americans. It's the most diverse country in the world. Dig a little.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, I've gotten this far too many times to count. Of course, this is always coming from the mouth of someone who doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to Americans. I'm not sure who I should blame more - the questioner for being so unapologetically ignorant, or our previous president for being such an amazingly awful ambassador.
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elavndrc



Joined: 15 Oct 2008
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get that all the time...but that's cuz I'm Asian American lol
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AsiaESLbound



Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are American? Your accent sounds kinda British?
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DeMayonnaise



Joined: 02 Nov 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any American who has a passport and is traveling outside the US or Mexico isn't a typical American.

But America is the most diverse country in the world. I don't think there's really anything called a "typical" American. I guess the stereotype would be redneck, Christan-Right Sarah Palin loving 'mericans. And they lost the last election, so they aren't even the majority.

Traveling throughout Asia people told me I wasn't a typical American, probably because you just don't see many Americans in Thailand. Hell, I met more Canadians than Americans. Shocked
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