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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject: SMOE - permission for after school classes? WTF! |
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Sorry but this is new to me. I was told earlier this week that ALL SMOE NETs now need consent and approval from immigration for after school classes.
Can anyone verify this? Apparently, our king, JP at SMOE head office is telling some pretty big stories or the Korean govt just made changes to the rules again and is messing things up with EEP and other English programs after school this year.
Apparently we now have to go down to immigration and inform them with a co-teacher about what extra contract and where, regardless if it is within SMOE. ??? Funny I phoned immigration and there was no mention of this.
This is just nuts.
I wanted after school contacts but now looks like that won't happen.
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:09 am Post subject: Re: SMOE - permission for after school classes? WTF! |
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| I give up! Where's the next plane outta this country!?? |
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afsjesse

Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Location: Kickin' it in 'Kato town.
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Forgive me if I'm misinterpret what you wrote.
All private classes are illegal on an E-2 visa unless you have permission from your employer and immigration. So, I don't see the big change here. Unless, you're you're saying that you need permission from immigration to do after-school classes in the school you work in, that is something new. |
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Steve_Rogers2008
Joined: 22 Mar 2010
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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for some reason, a massive game of "telephone" that went massively wrong came to mind.....  |
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fergalreid
Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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| afsjesse wrote: |
Forgive me if I'm misinterpret what you wrote.
All private classes are illegal on an E-2 visa unless you have permission from your employer and immigration. So, I don't see the big change here. Unless, you're you're saying that you need permission from immigration to do after-school classes in the school you work in, that is something new. |
I am going to go out on a limb. If the system was so crazy that a national immigration agency had to get involved in the provision of after school hours in a public school, there would be stressed principal uproar. |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject: Crazy |
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Well, i am still waiting for the response from SMOE.
Seems like someone has messed up on their info.
pass the BS please! |
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toonchoon

Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Location: Gangnam
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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they want you to teach extra classes, have them take care of the paperwork.
you're a foreign worker, invited to work here, so have them take care of paperwork. each school has admin personnel that should handle this. |
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egrog1717

Joined: 12 Mar 2008
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: Crazy |
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| Seoul'n'Corea wrote: |
Well, i am still waiting for the response from SMOE.
Seems like someone has messed up on their info.
pass the BS please! |
LOL... Unless you've done something to piss off JP, don't expect him to ever get back to you about something important in a timely manner...  |
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Xuanzang

Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Sadang
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| haha then I've been working illegally all these weeks. Sounds like Mr. Bling talking out of his piehole. |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Crazy |
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| egrog1717 wrote: |
| Seoul'n'Corea wrote: |
Well, i am still waiting for the response from SMOE.
Seems like someone has messed up on their info.
pass the BS please! |
LOL... Unless you've done something to piss off JP, don't expect him to ever get back to you about something important in a timely manner...  |
nope I wouldnt expect much from him. There are far more competent people that that fool. Jp is a condisending *beep* most days!
I don't like the way he talks to people especially during the orientation. |
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Seoulio

Joined: 02 Jan 2010
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 3:24 am Post subject: |
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I know the situation you are talking about Corea, but I dont think its exactly what you think.
I don't think its that you ned permission, I think its just that they are being more strict with the documentation.
My school came to me last week and told me that I MUST go down to immigration and update them on a secondary school workplace that I go to once a week so that there were no issues.
I kindly told them that I was an F2 visa holder and did not have to jump through such hoops.
So I do not think it's about approval as much as being anal about follow up documentation
Course I've been wrong before. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:29 am Post subject: |
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As a longtime epik teacher, heres my experience with this situation.
For years, my POE had an "understanding" with Immigration that the broadly worded contract enabled them to send their teachers anywhere officially sanctioned without express permission from immi. This worked fine & no one ever got busted, but immi decided it was against regulation.
So last year our schools were asked to submit a list of secondary workplaces for each teacher for immi's records. Nothing sinister, just abiding by the rules.
Afterschool classes at one's own main school should be totally unaffected. |
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PatrickGHBusan
Joined: 24 Jun 2008 Location: Busan (1997-2008) Canada 2008 -
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Simply put, if the classes are in your school they fall under your regular contract work and perhaps are considered OT.
If the classes are in another school, you need permission from your employer and approval by immigration.
Private tutoring remains completely illegal on the E2. |
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Swampthing500
Joined: 24 Feb 2009
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 4:39 am Post subject: |
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| Could someone illuminate me as to the Jon Pak/JP hate? |
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Seoul'n'Corea
Joined: 06 Nov 2008
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Simply put, if the classes are in your school they fall under your regular contract work and perhaps are considered OT.
If the classes are in another school, you need permission from your employer and approval by immigration.
Private tutoring remains completely illegal on the E2. |
We aren't talking about privates here. We are talking about working within your employer (SMOE)/ SMOE is the employer legally. this now according to Immigration requires extra paper work which is NEW this year to do extra classes which doesn't make any sense at all. Apparently immigration made changes that immigration staff aren't aware of. Crazy! Phone immigration and they know nothing of this yet magically SMOE knows about the change.
As for JP, ask around an you'll see why he is unpopular with teachers. |
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