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How do I get tax exemption for Korea as a UK citizen?
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobbyken wrote:

If a passport has a UK address in it, it's usually good enough proof for public schools to not take tax of your wage.


There are no addresses on passports Rolling Eyes
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Welsh Canadian



Joined: 03 Mar 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

creeper1 wrote:
nobbyken wrote:

If a passport has a UK address in it, it's usually good enough proof for public schools to not take tax of your wage.


There are no addresses on passports Rolling Eyes


Apart from when you write down your next of Kin's address.
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Sophos



Joined: 11 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My recruiter has got back to me now about the UK tax thing. They say:
"If you do not have a UK residential certificates, you will have to pay both of Korean income tax and UK income tax. But if you have the documents, you do not have to pay Korean income tax at least.
It is extremely difficult for you to get one after you arrive in Korea (which is almost impossible) so you�d better apply one to your tax office before you come. It is not essential, but annually it can be quite a lot of money, so I really suggest you to get one before you come in to Korea."

As far as I could work out from the UK tax website we would not be classed as resident in the UK anyway because we will be living outside of the UK for more than 183 days so we would not be subject to UK tax anyway. This is really worrying me now - we're leaving in 3 weeks and have loads of stuff to do before we get to Korea without worrying about tax!
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Davew125



Joined: 11 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nobbyken wrote:
There's a reciprocal pension agreement between the governments, don't know exactly how it works.
UK residents can also declare 'non-resident status' through the tax website.
If a passport has a UK address in it, it's usually good enough proof for public schools to not take tax of your wage.


i've been told by both the HMRC at home and the pension office here that our contributions are NOT transferable and that there is no reciprocal agreement like there is for US or Canadian citizens. However the general ignorance of civil servants is pretty universal so there still may be hope, don't bank on it though.

With regard to making contributions i'd rather put my money in other places. The UK is already extremely top heavy with regards to older citizens and there isn't the means to cover that now! I don't trust the government not to up the retirement age to 70-75 and the contribution time to 35+ years.
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Linz



Joined: 25 Jun 2010
Location: Glasgow

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's correct that pension contributions aren't transferable for British people due to the UK not having a reciprocal agreement with Korea. But from what I can see we don't need to pay UK income tax. The HMRC say;

Quote:
If you leave the UK to work full-time abroad under a contract of employment, you are treated as not resident and not ordinarily resident if you meet all the following conditions
� your absence from the UK and your employment abroad both last for at least a whole tax year
� during your absence any visits you make to the UK
- total less than 183 days in any tax year, and
- average less than 91 days a tax year. (The average is taken over the period of absence up to a maximum of four years.


Non residents don't need to pay UK income tax so it would be cheaper to forget about getting the UK residency certificate and just pay the Korean income tax.
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valkerie



Joined: 02 Mar 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a mate look into this very recently, as she left.

There is a Brit-Korea agreement to transfer the pension credits (rather than get the cash as some nationalities can) BUT

BUt

BUT

it cannot be done when you leave. You have to wait until you are of retirement age and then they contact Korea and get the info.

Somehow I cannot imagine trying to do that.
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jenna740



Joined: 25 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At a public school, we do not have to pay tax for the first two years.

I have recently just got my letter.

I sent a letter to my local tax office requesting a certificate of residency. I said that I am working at a public school in South Korea and needed proof that I was a UK citizen so that I was exempt from tax. Very simple. Didn't take too long.

Why do people write on these forums if they do not know what they are on about?!
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jenna740



Joined: 25 May 2009

PostPosted: Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AND it's free!
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gideonseaton



Joined: 21 Sep 2010

PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Afraid I have to re-ignite this discussion and again try to decifer exactly what is going on.

OK yes so getting the certificate of residency is easy and means you dont have to pay tax in korea.

However does that now mean you are liable for tax on your Korean earnings back in the UK.

Or are you somehow exempt? I guess a proffessional or someone who has done this before and knows the results knows best.

I dont want to get the Certificate only to find i have to pay a massive 20% uk tax .... oh and did any of you bother with the p85 .. or whatever it was? Confused
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saram_



Joined: 13 May 2008

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

valkerie wrote:
Had a mate look into this very recently, as she left.

There is a Brit-Korea agreement to transfer the pension credits (rather than get the cash as some nationalities can) BUT

BUt

BUT

it cannot be done when you leave. You have to wait until you are of retirement age and then they contact Korea and get the info.

Somehow I cannot imagine trying to do that.






Can you please show me exactly where you seen this..?

A lump sum refund is out of the question for sure...but I also believe that UK citizens cannot count their contributions here towards their overall pension when and if they need it in retirement.


Pension status for citizens of the U.K.

Unlike the US and Canada, Korea and the UK have only agreed to a 'contribution only' convention, at this time. What this means to UK citizens working in Korea, is that your Korean pension contributions can be added to your accruing pension credits in the UK, of which you can begin to receive when you retire in that country.

After being transferred 4 times in the UK, I finally got an update on this, it is NOT TRUE. There is NO agreement between the UK and Korea on pensions. You can call 0845 301 3011 from the UK to check this
.

The above is from galbi jim..I called this number before and they said there is no agreement in place at all..
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JD_Tiberius



Joined: 16 Nov 2009
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gideonseaton wrote:
Afraid I have to re-ignite this discussion and again try to decifer exactly what is going on.

OK yes so getting the certificate of residency is easy and means you dont have to pay tax in korea.

However does that now mean you are liable for tax on your Korean earnings back in the UK.

Or are you somehow exempt? I guess a proffessional or someone who has done this before and knows the results knows best.

I dont want to get the Certificate only to find i have to pay a massive 20% uk tax .... oh and did any of you bother with the p85 .. or whatever it was? Confused


Indeed, My school is getting on at me about the certificate, but I'm not stupid. There is no way in hell that I am paying absurd taxes to Lord Tax avoidance Ashcroft's Tories when I'm not even in the cesspool of despair that tries to pass itself off as a country. I'll take Korean taxes any day of the week thank you very much.
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Daelim



Joined: 18 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about seding money home to a current account every month?

I really have no idea and just presumed because I didn't live in the UK I wouldn't need to pay UK taxes.

However, I have read about remittance tax that suggests that any foreign income I send home in liable for UK taxation. As it stands my girlfriend and I send a large chunk home every month and I really don't want it to be taxed.

Does anyone have a solid answer to this discussion?
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daelim - there may be a remittance charge, but I've never heard of a remittance TAX. You may get tax deducted from any interest that you accrue as a result of your savings deposit, but no one should be deducting income tax at your bank. That's not your bank's department.
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Setaro



Joined: 08 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless you informed Her Majesty's Tax Office, they will have no idea you're working abroad, and thus can't tax you.

Either just pay the minuscule Korean tax, or just show them your passport and say that's proof of British residency, maybe they won't know what to do and they'll let you off with Korean tax too.
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