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kcs0001
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Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: Police state: How Mexico treats illegal aliens |
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Shocker: Mexico does not share the U.S. value of Diversity
http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/28/police-state-how-mexico-treats-illegal-aliens/
Police state: How Mexico treats illegal aliens
By Michelle Malkin � April 28, 2010 12:36 AM
This is what a �police state� looks like
My syndicated column today responds to Mexican President Felipe Calderon�s demagoguery on Arizona�s immigration enforcement law. Calderon has a long history of bashing the U.S. � and then getting rewarded for it with billions of dollars in foreign aid (see here, here, and here).
I reported on Calderon�s aggressive meddling on behalf of illegal aliens through his government consulate offices in America here. Heather Mac Donald published a thorough investigation of the Mexican government meddle-crats here. Allan Wall has reported on it for years. Mike Sweeney, an Arizona Republic letter-writer underscores my column theme today:
�Having traveled into Mexico last year to various cities on the Baja Peninsula, a distance of more than 1,000 miles round-trip, we were stopped more than 20 times at various checkpoints. At most of those stops, we were told to exit the vehicle and we were subjected to rigorous inspections. Where does Mexican President Felipe Calder�n get off with his hypocritical outrage at our Senate Bill 1070?�
Where indeed?
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How Mexico treats illegal aliens
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2010
Mexican President Felipe Calderon has accused Arizona of opening the door �to intolerance, hate, discrimination and abuse in law enforcement.� But Arizona has nothing on Mexico when it comes to cracking down on illegal aliens. While open-borders activists decry new enforcement measures signed into law in �Nazi-zona� last week, they remain deaf, dumb or willfully blind to the unapologetically restrictionist policies of our neighbors to the south.
The Arizona law bans sanctuary cities that refuse to enforce immigration laws, stiffens penalties against illegal alien day laborers and their employers, makes it a misdemeanor for immigrants to fail to complete and carry an alien registration document, and allows the police to arrest immigrants unable to show documents proving they are in the U.S. legally. If those rules constitute the racist, fascist, xenophobic, inhumane regime that the National Council of La Raza, Al Sharpton, Catholic bishops and their grievance-mongering followers claim, then what about these regulations and restrictions imposed on foreigners?
� The Mexican government will bar foreigners if they upset �the equilibrium of the national demographics.� How�s that for racial and ethnic profiling?
� If outsiders do not enhance the country�s �economic or national interests� or are �not found to be physically or mentally healthy,� they are not welcome. Neither are those who show �contempt against national sovereignty or security.� They must not be economic burdens on society and must have clean criminal histories. Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care.
� Illegal entry into the country is equivalent to a felony punishable by two years� imprisonment. Document fraud is subject to fine and imprisonment; so is alien marriage fraud. Evading deportation is a serious crime; illegal re-entry after deportation is punishable by ten years� imprisonment. Foreigners may be kicked out of the country without due process and the endless bites at the litigation apple that illegal aliens are afforded in our country (see, for example, President Obama�s illegal alien aunt � a fugitive from deportation for eight years who is awaiting a second decision on her previously rejected asylum claim).
� Law enforcement officials at all levels � by national mandate � must cooperate to enforce immigration laws, including illegal alien arrests and deportations. The Mexican military is also required to assist in immigration enforcement operations. Native-born Mexicans are empowered to make citizens� arrests of illegal aliens and turn them in to authorities.
� Ready to show your papers? Mexico�s National Catalog of Foreigners tracks all outside tourists and foreign nationals. A National Population Registry tracks and verifies the identity of every member of the population, who must carry a citizens� identity card. Visitors who do not possess proper documents and identification are subject to arrest as illegal aliens.
All of these provisions are enshrined in Mexico�s Ley General de Poblaci�n (General Law of the Population) and were spotlighted in a 2006 research paper published by the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Security Policy. There�s been no public clamor for �comprehensive immigration reform� in Mexico, however, because pro-illegal alien speech by outsiders is prohibited.
Consider: Open-borders protesters marched freely at the Capitol building in Arizona, comparing GOP Gov. Jan Brewer to Hitler, waving Mexican flags, advocating that demonstrators �Smash the State,� and holding signs that proclaimed �No human is illegal� and �We have rights.�
But under the Mexican constitution, such political speech by foreigners is banned. Noncitizens cannot �in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.� In fact, a plethora of Mexican statutes enacted by its congress limit the participation of foreign nationals and companies in everything from investment, education, mining and civil aviation to electric energy and firearms. Foreigners have severely limited private property and employment rights (if any).
As for abuse, the Mexican government is notorious for its abuse of Central American illegal aliens who attempt to violate Mexico�s southern border. The Red Cross has protested rampant Mexican police corruption, intimidation and bribery schemes targeting illegal aliens there for years. Mexico didn�t respond by granting mass amnesty to illegal aliens, as it is demanding that we do. It clamped down on its borders even further. In late 2008, the Mexican government launched an aggressive deportation plan to curtain illegal Cuban immigration and human trafficking through Cancun.
Meanwhile, Mexican consular offices in the United States have coordinated with left-wing social justice groups and the Catholic Church leadership to demand a moratorium on all deportations and a freeze on all employment raids across America.
Mexico is doing the job Arizona is now doing � a job the U.S. government has failed miserably to do: putting its people first. Here�s the proper rejoinder to all the hysterical demagogues in Mexico (and their sympathizers here on American soil) now calling for boycotts and invoking Jim Crow laws, apartheid and the Holocaust because Arizona has taken its sovereignty into its own hands:
Hip�critas. |
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Moldy Rutabaga

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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 2:24 am Post subject: |
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Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care. |
Not exactly onerous demands. This article seems to be trying to justify the Arizona laws by cherry-picking pieces of legislation from Mexico.
The article doesn't take into consideration that these Mexican laws are spottily enforced and effectively dead letters in many areas. I lived and taught in Mexico for a year on a tourist visa. There was no enforcement of work or residency rules. I went on a road trip to McAllen, Texas, one weekend. I came back on Sunday and drove right into the country without being stopped or questioned at any time during the day. I even went to a border patrol office and asked to be permitted into the country and my passport stamped, to renew my tourist visa. I am not inventing this: I couldn't wake anyone up! I gave up and drove on. |
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visitorq
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
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Those seeking to obtain Mexican citizenship must show a birth certificate, provide a bank statement proving economic independence, pass an exam and prove they can provide their own health care. |
Not exactly onerous demands. This article seems to be trying to justify the Arizona laws by cherry-picking pieces of legislation from Mexico.
The article doesn't take into consideration that these Mexican laws are spottily enforced and effectively dead letters in many areas. I lived and taught in Mexico for a year on a tourist visa. There was no enforcement of work or residency rules. I went on a road trip to McAllen, Texas, one weekend. I came back on Sunday and drove right into the country without being stopped or questioned at any time during the day. I even went to a border patrol office and asked to be permitted into the country and my passport stamped, to renew my tourist visa. I am not inventing this: I couldn't wake anyone up! I gave up and drove on. |
The Arizona laws are justified regardless of Mexican legislation. The article just shows the complete hypocrisy of the Mexican government, which is basically a criminal syndicate at his point... |
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bacasper

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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Seeking support for the Arizona law by comparing it to Mexican laws is a straw man. It is like saying this law is OK because somewhere there is a worse one.
The law does not pass Constitutional muster as immigration issues are in the purview not of states but of the federal government. Furthermore, it violates the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures, as it is essentially a "Vere are your papers?" law. |
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bucheon bum
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:33 am Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
Seeking support for the Arizona law by comparing it to Mexican laws is a straw man. It is like saying this law is OK because somewhere there is a worse one. |
Indeed. Do we really want to start comparing ourselves to Mexico? Have our expectations of ourselves fallen that low? |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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If it's good enough for Mexico, then it's good enough for us. If you can't prove you're in a country legally, then why should you not be deported? |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:48 am Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
Seeking support for the Arizona law by comparing it to Mexican laws is a straw man. It is like saying this law is OK because somewhere there is a worse one.
The law does not pass Constitutional muster as immigration issues are in the purview not of states but of the federal government. Furthermore, it violates the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures, as it is essentially a "Vere are your papers?" law. |
An interesting assertion. I take into full account the faults of my memory when I ask you which portion of the Constitution you are referring to, as I am unaware of any Federal provision regarding immigration, either positively or to the contrary. |
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thomas pars
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Michelle Malkin?!?
Bitter hate filled harpy makes the forum. |
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ThingsComeAround

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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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thomas pars wrote: |
Michelle Malkin?!?
Bitter hate filled harpy makes the forum. |
Just the fact that you got your source from that sleazy journalist discredits you. |
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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bacasper wrote: |
Seeking support for the Arizona law by comparing it to Mexican laws is a straw man. It is like saying this law is OK because somewhere there is a worse one.
The law does not pass Constitutional muster as immigration issues are in the purview not of states but of the federal government. Furthermore, it violates the Fourth Amendment against unreasonable searches and seizures, as it is essentially a "Vere are your papers?" law. |
The problem is that the federal government is (as you are aware) a pack of crooks working for global interests, and are leaving our borders WIDE open. It is a complete travesty, and part of the deliberate policy by the powers that be to bankrupt our country.
I agree it basically goes against the spirit of the Fourth Amendment, but this is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with somehow. I'm not sure what the best course of action would be, to least infringe on the rights of American citizens, but perhaps enforcing this law with a limited time frame in border states might work (just long enough to find and deport as many illegals as possible).
Ultimately though the borders need to be secured properly or even that will just be a temporary fix. We spend more money on our military than all countries combined and enter into illegal wars, occupying other countries. If we can somehow manage to afford all that, I think we can manage to secure our own borders... |
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The Happy Warrior
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:09 am Post subject: |
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Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
If it's good enough for Mexico, then it's good enough for us. If you can't prove you're in a country legally, then why should you not be deported? |
Because you may be a citizen. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

Joined: 31 May 2003 Location: University of Western Chile
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:36 am Post subject: |
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The Happy Warrior wrote: |
Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
If it's good enough for Mexico, then it's good enough for us. If you can't prove you're in a country legally, then why should you not be deported? |
Because you may be a citizen. |
I may be a citizen of Korea?
If I cannot prove I'm here legally I get deported.
Why aren't we marching? |
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The Happy Warrior
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
The Happy Warrior wrote: |
Leslie Cheswyck wrote: |
If it's good enough for Mexico, then it's good enough for us. If you can't prove you're in a country legally, then why should you not be deported? |
Because you may be a citizen. |
I may be a citizen of Korea?
If I cannot prove I'm here legally I get deported.
Why aren't we marching? |
This isn't about the foreigners, Leslie, as I just answered. Its about the rights of citizens. If there were no danger of citizens being hassled and perhaps thrown into jail, as has already happened, then I would support the law. So far, I haven't seen anyone on this board suggest that illegals shouldn't be subject to this law: the problem is that citizens shouldn't be subject to this law. |
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Leslie Cheswyck

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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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This happens with any law. |
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Sector7G
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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ThingsComeAround wrote: |
thomas pars wrote: |
Michelle Malkin?!?
Bitter hate filled harpy makes the forum. |
Just the fact that you got your source from that sleazy journalist discredits you. |
Seconded! She could even be technically correct this time but it would not matter to me- she has been proven to misrepresent things too many times - maybe even willfully, to take what she says as the truth. I just don't have the energy to fact check her right now. |
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