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[PatrickGHBusan]

Dr Whom you do not understand what is being said here.

I and another poster did not say the OP would give up his F2 visa for an E2.

What we said is that F2 visa people still need to have the qualifications that are required for an E2 visa to be able to teach legally. They will not BE or GET an E2. They will have the obligations and rights of the resident F2 visa but still need to meet the requirement of a teaching visa, in this case a DEGREE.

I can understand your confusion from the way things were written so far.

Also a F2 visa still requires that your school registers you as a teacher with immigration if you want to teach. To teach private lessons you also need to register with immigration and pay taxes on the declared income from said private lessons.

So while the F2 is a resident visa and comes with more freedom of labor movement, it is not an all access pass where you do what you want without the authorities being involved....

Finally the E2 is not just for newbees my friend. It is for those teachers who cannot meet the requirements for a residency visa. It is not a jail, nor does it handcuff you. It is more restrictive but many people work in Korea for years on that E2 and do quite well.

The flip side of this is that the F2 visa is NOT a teaching specific visa and as such not all or even most F2 visa holders are teachers, they work in many other fields but still need the actual QUALIFICATIONS to work at these other jobs....

[Dr. Whom]

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[TheUrbanMyth]

[Dr. Whom]

[Mr. Pink]

[TheUrbanMyth]

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[PatrickGHBusan]

That settles it dr Whom you are blowing smoke out of your rear end. You cannot possibly be that dense....or maybe you are.

Your whole E2 = handcuffs line is laughable. I just hope you are trying to be funny and typing tongue in cheek.

[murmanjake]

Is a CBC ever required for teaching(Hagwon/University/Public school) on an F2?

Wouldn't that be part of meeting E2 requirements?

[TheUrbanMyth]

[alistaircandlin]

Sorry if I'm repeating here - I've not read through all the posts.

I knew a woman who worked at a small Hagwon for about three years with no degree. Her husband was Korean. The hagwon, strangely, had her husband's degree certificate on display in a cabinet in their foyer. He didn't work there. I think the degree was in English Ed. from a fairly decent Canadian Uni. the owners wanted to put on a good show for the parents I guess, who wouldn't realise that the owner of the degree didn't actually work there.

I don't know the details of how this worked, but I guess it was not completely above board. Maybe they just paid cash or at least didn't put it all through the books.

The teacher actually got promoted in the Hagwon and eventually helped them with recruiting. As I say, she had no degree and was unqualified as a teacher. In Canada she had been a hairdresser.

My point here is that it is definitely possible but might not be 100% Kosher.

[Netz]

I love it when these posts come up, so here we go.

There's basically two types of immigrant English teachers in South Korea, those who play by the rules, and those who don't.

If you fall into the latter category, regardless of your visa type, you should keep your mouth shut about your activities, and certainly not broadcast it on the internet. You never know who's listening.

That being said, I advocate that anyone in the "legal" category report ANY illegal teachers they come across. It's become a hobby of mine over the years.

I know some people on here will chastise me and say, "Mind your own business". Guess what? It is my business. Illegal workers (teachers) have two primary detrimental effects on me personally.

1. They create unfair competition in the market and they lower wages.
2. They make those of us who are legal look bad, and create more fuel for the "unqualified bad English teacher" fire.

I don't need either.

Furthermore, if you are caught, there will be repercussions:

Tourist Visa - Fine and deportation
E2- Fine and/or deportation
F2-4 (illegal, no degree, tutor license, etc.) Fines and the possibility of 3 year extension to F5 eligibility for F2 holders.
F5 - Fines and immigration crawling up your (expletive).

I also love to see those flyers, because they can easily be used to track down illegals, and are also great evidence to hand over to the immigration investigators that will check them out, and most times, help them to convict the offender.

Fun stuff.

Again, I fully expect the flamers (probably law breakers) to come here and start telling me off. Go for it. I have nothing to hide, and everything to gain from reporting illegal teachers to immigration.

So, word to the wise, if you do come here and work illegally, keep your mouth shut, or become a target.

For anyone who's interested, here's the process:

http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/InfoDetailR_en.pt?categoryId=2&parentId=409&catSeq=&showMenuId=381

And here's any phone numbers you'll need:

http://www.hikorea.go.kr/pt/GvrnSrchPageR_en.pt?userId=&userPasswd=&newscttSeq=&bbsGbCd=&bbsSeq=&ntccttSeq=&cvlapplCd=&userID=&langCd=&pollSeq=&locale=en

One last thing, an F visa IS NOT a free pass to break the law, as some have suggested. I'd say you could ask a few individuals who's names were given to immigration, sadly (for them), they aren't around anymore to tell the tale.

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