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Are the chronically late/flakes mentally deficient?
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8 years down



Joined: 16 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd say it stems less from culture or where you grew up, and more from one's thought process or inability to plan or think ahead.

If I tell my wife that we are walking out the door to go somewhere at exactly 7pm, it doesn't matter if she starts getting ready at noon, she simply can't do it. She'll be ready to go around 7:30.

She doesn't think of the things that can or might happen to make her late, and can't react appropriately if/when they pop up. I think another poster said "lack of awareness or surroundings." I'd also put the conically late people in that category.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't mind leaving for some where late, if there is no rush. I can yell at people on here or play a computer game or something while I wait.

The thing I can't stand is the group or person you are traveling with calling time to leave, then proceeding to dilly dally around while you wait outside.
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NYC_Gal



Joined: 08 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bloopity Bloop wrote:
NYC_Gal wrote:
You're way too nice. I'd have waited until 7 and gone home. If they live 10 minutes from the meeting place, they could get home easily then call YOU.


You're probably right. Only reason I didn't was because it took me a hell of a while to get there in the first place and I really wanted to eat at that particular restaurant. If I'm anyone at all, I'm someone who REALLY enjoys his food.


You and me both, but I'd rather eat some brown rice and veggie stir fry at home than wait for an hour and a half (2 hours to them, as you weren't there!) in the rain for some slackers.
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Privateer



Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.

PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be guilty of this! I was just immature is all.
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UknowsI



Joined: 16 Apr 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have started to chose the meeting location with friends who are always late. I used to say "let's meet at this coffee shop", but when she was constantly 30 minutes late I simply told her "knock on my door when you're ready and we'll walk there". This was a good friend I met every week, and it might be too rude to say to someone you don't know too well, but it's no more rude than making you wait repeatedly.
southernman wrote:

They are undoubtably the same people with messy desks, untold unanswered messages on the answer phones and bits of food/gunge on their person. Very Happy

Don't group us together! My desk is a complete mess, but I'm very punctual.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

8 years down wrote:
I'd say it stems less from culture or where you grew up, and more from one's thought process or inability to plan or think ahead.


If you grew up in e.g. Italy, Ireland or Australia then I think it is cultural. Such countries have a very laid back approach."see you at 8' means "see you sometime this evening".

Its mostly north americans and western europeans that prize exacting punctuality. Americans, germans, Brits etc.

In korea though people show higher status by arriving late. Older guys rock up whever they please to impress on you that their time is more important than yours.

if you're talking dating a K-woman, then..welll^^ she'll be late just so as not to appear too keen..and see how you handle it.
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sulperman



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My PS co-worker is always about 5 or 10 minutes late. She always makes a big show of it, running into school out of breath. Every damn day, without exception. It annoys me to no end. I know 5 minutes is no big deal, but the fact that she lives very close to the school and I have to commute a much, much longer distance, and I still get there on times bugs the hell out of me. Petty, I know, but I am a petty person.
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cj1976



Joined: 26 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was in a train station in London, and I saw a German man living up to the teuton stereotype by going nuts over a late train. In the UK, trains rarely run on time but we're so used to it now that nobody really cares too much. Apparently, "Zees never happens in Germany."
I guess Germans really care about punctuality.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2010 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cj1976 wrote:
I was in a train station in London, and I saw a German man living up to the teuton stereotype by going nuts over a late train. In the UK, trains rarely run on time but we're so used to it now that nobody really cares too much. Apparently, "Zees never happens in Germany."
I guess Germans really care about punctuality.


In Holland I was amazed to see that bus stops have very specific timetables which show the exact times that each bus will arrive AT THAT BUS STOP! And even if the bus stop was on a lonely stretch of road near some country town....if the timetable says that No. 345 is due at 4:33.......at 4:33 there it is.


The native-German teacher at my last school used to get very annoyed because we would get on at the 1st stop. The bus turning-around point being outside our school. There was a timetable but, of course, the ajeossi bus drivers would just get going as soon as possible. He really couldn't understand why the driver would depart at 5:17 if the timetable says 5:20.......
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AmericanExile



Joined: 04 May 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like being late as a matter of consideration. On the other side, I'm usually pretty good about waiting except when there is an event I paid money for is involved. I used to be a Bears season ticket holder. You learn to make sure everyone has their ticket in advance. Then getting to the seat is their problem. I could do my thing stress free. Fine if they wanted to tag along, but I had the timing down and would not wait beyond my comfort zone.

The thing that kills me is when you tell them "I'm leaving at X time even if you aren't there" they claim to understand. Then when you do leave without them, they act like you are the jerk.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sulperman wrote:
My PS co-worker is always about 5 or 10 minutes late. She always makes a big show of it, running into school out of breath. Every damn day, without exception..


Have to confess I'm usually the same way at work.

I just can't bring myself to arrive early and sit doing nothing for 40 minutes just for the sake of keeping up appearances. Isn't it just so korean to unecessarily spend too long in the office doing absolutely zero.

I do my prep the afternoon beforehand.
I've never been late for class itself.
I do a great job. But I don't do idle deskwarming.
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Tundra_Creature



Joined: 11 Jun 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If someone is 5-10 minutes late, I don't have a big problem with it. However, when you're kicking the 20 minute+ marker, then that's a different thing. It's okay if you do it once in a blue moon, everyone has their day... but every time? Really?

I know someone who is constantly late for something... or just never shows up. However, it's okay because loe and behold... she'll come up with the grandious stories every time (which half of the time are untrue) so it's okay if she shows up late.

I think my bigger problem is that she is expects it to be okay if she flakes out every time on people, but if you're even ten minutes late with her, she'll freak out on you. I remember once she was supposed to pick me up from work and it was taking longer than usual. I finally managed to call her and she just 'forgot'.

I consider myself a laid back person, but when someone pulls that kind of nonsense 24/7 then I have a problem.
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