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Should I take a bike bell with me when I go running?
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Globutron



Joined: 13 Feb 2010
Location: England/Anyang

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lukas wrote:
oskinny1 wrote:
It works in Japan.


This is easily one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing


Have you not seen Japanese shows? They literally have a show for everything. My particular favourite is this (long but worth it to hear their excitement) -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EF0svxGhClI

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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you've played either basketball or football it helps a lot. Do your best to give the other person space, but be prepared when that doesn't work. I quit running on the track near where I live because there was just so much going on that caused you to zig, zag or break stride that it took all the fun out of it.

The playing chicken post above gets to the heart of at least some of it. The confucian thing and all. Plus they're so used to taking shortcuts that they brush up against you because they just can't make themselves take the extra step necessary to give another person space.

I was standing in line once at an outdoors mall here waiting to buy a crepe. I was holding a bag containing the Tefal frying pan I had just purchased. Every person who walked past me, and I mean every person, walked into that bag. Maybe they were so self-absorbed they were oblivious to the world around them.

But it's definitely annoying.
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PatrickBateman



Joined: 08 Jun 2009
Location: American Gardens Building, West 81st Street

PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mattdsoares wrote:
Koreans play chicken when walking. They make every effort to run into you it seems. They see you coming, but either make no effort to move, or do so in a manner that makes manners worse.




Laughing

I've thought this so many times.
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
Location: all over the place

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've come to enjoy those times when someone veers toward me while walking.

I stiffen up and get the elbow ready. I've spun a few people around and it is satisfying beyond belief.

I make way in a reasonable manner. If they still insist on walking into me, well....like I said I look forward to that. I used to give everyone a wide berth but that just pissed me off more than getting bumped. New strategy.
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lille



Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Janny wrote:
I've come to enjoy those times when someone veers toward me while walking.

I stiffen up and get the elbow ready. I've spun a few people around and it is satisfying beyond belief.

I make way in a reasonable manner. If they still insist on walking into me, well....like I said I look forward to that. I used to give everyone a wide berth but that just pissed me off more than getting bumped. New strategy.


i'm so glad i'm not the only one. but why must they act so surprised when they walk into you?
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Spud10



Joined: 26 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forward Observer wrote:
I think taking your shirt off while running will be enough to stop just about anything Korean in their tracks. Surprised


Good lord, no kidding.

Learned that one the fun way.
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Kaypea



Joined: 09 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've stopped running at public parks. They take all the joy out of running. Running along a highway with a sidewalk is much better, and you can get some awesome views. But, you still find ramyeon vomit in the darndest places...
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ashland



Joined: 05 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
Koreans walk in the same way as they jog, run, ride bikes and drive cars i.e. they have impaired spatial awareness and a sense of irresponsibility for others around them.


damn, you have just won a million dollars for pointing out the odd genetic trait of korean race. go back home tomorrow and claim your money (from your parents).

to the op: one word for you - mannerism. keep that in mind all the time. respect is what you will get.
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conbon78



Joined: 05 Jun 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 12:21 am    Post subject: running Reply with quote

Actually this weekend I was out running on the river...don't really have to dodge people because I don't find it that busy, maybe its the time that I run. Anyway, one ajumma was coming right toward me, in my way. She was walking slowly next to her friend, but there was no way for me to get around them, so I just plowed right into her. It felt good. And no...I don't feel bad. When someone is running, you should move. Its not a hard concept.
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashland wrote:
Savant wrote:
Koreans walk in the same way as they jog, run, ride bikes and drive cars i.e. they have impaired spatial awareness and a sense of irresponsibility for others around them.


damn, you have just won a million dollars for pointing out the odd genetic trait of korean race. go back home tomorrow and claim your money (from your parents).

to the op: one word for you - mannerism. keep that in mind all the time. respect is what you will get.


Mannerism? Koreans don't know the meaning of the word.

Respect here follows the rules of confucian hierarchy; it's not based on mutual respect.

Shame on us for trying to impart our Western ideal of good manners unto the korean race.
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ashland



Joined: 05 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: running Reply with quote

conbon78 wrote:
Actually this weekend I was out running on the river...don't really have to dodge people because I don't find it that busy, maybe its the time that I run. Anyway, one ajumma was coming right toward me, in my way. She was walking slowly next to her friend, but there was no way for me to get around them, so I just plowed right into her. It felt good. And no...I don't feel bad. When someone is running, you should move. Its not a hard concept.


you're lucky to be alive.. if i were the ajuma, i wouldn't let you run away easy.
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ashland



Joined: 05 Dec 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Savant wrote:
ashland wrote:
Savant wrote:
Koreans walk in the same way as they jog, run, ride bikes and drive cars i.e. they have impaired spatial awareness and a sense of irresponsibility for others around them.


damn, you have just won a million dollars for pointing out the odd genetic trait of korean race. go back home tomorrow and claim your money (from your parents).

to the op: one word for you - mannerism. keep that in mind all the time. respect is what you will get.


Mannerism? Koreans don't know the meaning of the word.

Respect here follows the rules of confucian hierarchy; it's not based on mutual respect.

Shame on us for trying to impart our Western ideal of good manners unto the korean race.


use your western ideal to grow up.
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Savant



Joined: 25 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashland wrote:
Savant wrote:
ashland wrote:
Savant wrote:
Koreans walk in the same way as they jog, run, ride bikes and drive cars i.e. they have impaired spatial awareness and a sense of irresponsibility for others around them.


damn, you have just won a million dollars for pointing out the odd genetic trait of korean race. go back home tomorrow and claim your money (from your parents).

to the op: one word for you - mannerism. keep that in mind all the time. respect is what you will get.


Mannerism? Koreans don't know the meaning of the word.

Respect here follows the rules of confucian hierarchy; it's not based on mutual respect.

Shame on us for trying to impart our Western ideal of good manners unto the korean race.


use your western ideal to grow up.


How very teenage of you to tell me to grow up.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashland wrote:
Savant wrote:
Koreans walk in the same way as they jog, run, ride bikes and drive cars i.e. they have impaired spatial awareness and a sense of irresponsibility for others around them.


damn, you have just won a million dollars for pointing out the odd genetic trait of korean race. go back home tomorrow and claim your money (from your parents).

to the op: one word for you - mannerism. keep that in mind all the time. respect is what you will get.

Mannerisms is what passes for manners here--superficial obeisance to authority figures when they are in situations where they can be observed.

Outside of that respect is rarely given here. But a few do, which makes it worthwhile to try and respect others because you never know--one of them might return the sentiment.
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Janny



Joined: 02 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood...that was lovely!

ashland...your arguments are so weak. Why not try to explain Korean behavior to us foreigners (since you are obviously a Korean sympathizer / Korean national) instead of tossing flimsy, condescending remarks at everybody?
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