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Arizona's on a roll now

 
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Kikomom



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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:28 am    Post subject: Arizona's on a roll now Reply with quote

As educators living in another culture, I'm very interested in your take on what is happening in AZ this time around...

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Arizona bill targeting ethnic studies signed into law

Gov. Jan Brewer signs the bill that bans schools from teaching classes designed for students of a particular ethnic group. School districts may appeal the law, which becomes effective Dec. 31.

A bill that aims to ban ethnic studies in Arizona schools was signed into law Tuesday by Gov. Jan Brewer, cheering critics who called such classes divisive and alarming others who said it's yet another law targeting Latinos in the state.
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HB 2281 bans schools from teaching classes that are designed for students of a particular ethnic group, promote resentment or advocate ethnic solidarity over treating pupils as individuals. The bill also bans classes that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.
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Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: Arizona's on a roll now Reply with quote

Kikomom wrote:
As educators living in another culture, I'm very interested in your take on what is happening in AZ this time around...

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Arizona bill targeting ethnic studies signed into law

Gov. Jan Brewer signs the bill that bans schools from teaching classes designed for students of a particular ethnic group. School districts may appeal the law, which becomes effective Dec. 31.

A bill that aims to ban ethnic studies in Arizona schools was signed into law Tuesday by Gov. Jan Brewer, cheering critics who called such classes divisive and alarming others who said it's yet another law targeting Latinos in the state.
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HB 2281 bans schools from teaching classes that are designed for students of a particular ethnic group, promote resentment or advocate ethnic solidarity over treating pupils as individuals. The bill also bans classes that promote the overthrow of the U.S. government.


So the gist of the bill is... You may not teach content that:

1. Promotes resentment among ethnic groups
2. Promotes racial or ethnic supremacism
3. Or overthrowing the US government

So... what?

You may also consult this earlier thread on the same subject: http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=182719
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arizona...the only state in the US that employs logic in its decision making. Logic, not emotion, should be the order of the day.
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young_clinton



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the classroom things that are important to the west should be taught. What is western? science, mathematics, technology, things related to engineering, business. Ethnic pride? I have no problem with that whatsoever, just as long as the things that have been taught here for 100's of years come first.

The problem with the Arizona law is how do you teach those things to, or reach out, to different ethnic groups? Maybe not exactly the same way. Being Arizona I suspect the law is Anti-nonenglish and anti-mexican.

On a different note, they should rename Arizona "The Mecham State" after there brilliant former governer. As wierd as Arizonans are that would be fitting.
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stilicho25



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a good thing. I think teaching a class "on" culture is fine. A class "for" a culture strikes me as a bit off. Worse yet is anything based on race. Despite the new Neanderthal stuff, I think for the most part race and ethnicity is pretty arbitrary. Teaching a class that reinforces that sort of artificial division seems like a very bad idea.
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The Happy Warrior



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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might be harmless depending on its implementation, or it might be harmful, or it might actually be beneficial. I've heard little enough about what the words themselves are supposed to mean, or what the background is that prompted the laws.

But one thing I'm certain of is that this law will lead eventually to court to clarify the meanings.
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