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World Traveler
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 Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:25 am Post subject: Worst-Paying College Degrees |
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http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-worst_paying_college_degrees-1263
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10. Drama (starting annual salary: $35,600; mid-career annual salary: $56,600)
Some mega-millionaire movie stars with drama degrees (Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep, for instance) may be skewing these numbers upward--for every Denzel and Meryl, there are thousands of thespians struggling to make ends meet. But you don't study drama because you want to get rich--you study drama because you love the theater. (And an ability to act comes in handy in many professions.)
9. Fine arts (starting annual salary: $35,800; mid-career annual salary: $56,300)
Well, it takes an artist to make a thrift-store wardrobe look like a million bucks.
8. Hospitality and tourism (starting annual salary: $37,000; mid-career annual salary: $54,300)
Jobs that include tips may be skewing these numbers downward--and this is an industry that looks to be on the rebound as the economy improves. Plus, the perks associated with jobs in hospitality and tourism may compensate for the comparatively low salaries--many jobs in the industry allow extensive travel (or provide considerable travel discounts).
7. Education (starting annual salary: $36,200; mid-career annual salary: $54,100)
For the right people, teaching is an immensely rewarding career--and it's truly a noble one. The good news is, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the employment opportunities for primary, secondary, and special education teachers are expected to grow by 14 percent in the coming decade. And there will be plenty of new opportunities in continuing education for adults, as professional skill requirements change ever more rapidly.
6. Horticulture (starting annual salary: $37,200; mid-career annual salary: $53,400)
It seems that a green thumb doesn't necessarily bring in the greenbacks. But when you work among flowers and plants in a nursery or garden, who needs 'em?
5. Spanish (starting annual salary: $35,600; mid-career annual salary: $52,600)
As an old proverb puts it, when you learn a new language, you "gain a new soul." Who could put a price on that? And certainly, knowing Spanish--the language with the second-highest number of native speakers (after Mandarin)--in addition to English opens up a world of job opportunities beyond Spanish teacher or translator (as a plus, you can better enjoy a world of fantastic Spanish-language music, movies, and literature).
4. Music (starting annual salary: $34,000; mid-career annual salary: $52,000)
Hey, if being a musician were easy, everyone would do it. Some of us are guitar heroes; most of us just play the video game.
3. Theology (starting annual salary: $34,800; mid-career annual salary: $51,500)
This is the perfect example of a degree earned by someone who's "not in it for the money": people who choose to study theology often feel they're pursuing a higher calling (and often feel a strong desire to do good in the world, no matter the cost).
2. Elementary education (starting annual salary: $33,000; mid-career annual salary: $42,400)
Specializing in elementary education means a lower median salary than an education degree (number 7).
1. Social work (starting annual salary: $33,400; mid-career annual salary: $41,600)
They say that crime doesn't pay. As this list seems to point out, neither does helping people. So it's a good thing that many college students seem to believe that helping others is its own reward--social workers are an indispensable safety net for people who've fallen on difficult times. And the BLS reports that the outlook for opportunities in this field are favorable--particularly for social workers who work in rural areas or with senior citizens. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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Well I and many of my peers are or have been way below the $33,000 a year figure. You only make $16,000 a gross if working 40 hours a week for $8 an hour and it's often impossible to get a full 40 hours on many jobs. These are typically jobs in hospitality, tourism, retail sales, telemarketing, accounts receivables, cubicle grunt work, and service jobs. Well it seems most jobs are grossly under paying over there in the land of opportunity. If $10 an hour, then you are up to a whopping $20,000 gross a year. This is very typical pay back home, college degree or not. How many $20 an hour $40,000 a year jobs are on offer these days? Very few. Teaching in Korea is on this scale of entry level salaries of about $35,000 gross. I feel filthy rich on such a modest entry level salary due to it being more than I need to survive allowing a surplus for my very first time.
How in the world are people getting those good jobs back home? I have a BSBA from what is considered a decent large state university, but no one was hiring for the good jobs during the past 6 years so I resorted to doing a wide variety of the jobs I listed above of which none of them panned out to be rewarding. The good entry level professional jobs requiring a degree always seem to require 5 to 10 years experience. Probably some good out of conundrum as it would be too boring to not travel and have some vacation time to do it on. I wished for a traveling jet away job since I was a teen way before I knew about Korea. |
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Welsh Canadian
Joined: 03 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:55 am Post subject: |
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2. Elementary education (starting annual salary: $33,000; mid-career annual salary: $42,400)
Specializing in elementary education means a lower median salary than an education degree (number 7).
Not the case in Canada. I would be earning about 53,000 when I get back from Korea. If I were to actually get a job.
After 11yrs there is a salary cap though. I would be earning about 93,000 by then as a teacher. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| I was shocked that history wasn't on the list. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:39 am Post subject: |
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http://money.cnn.com/2000/08/11/career/q_degreehistory/
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"The College Majors Handbook" found that salaries for history majors average $45,900 per year, better than the average for all social scientists but still about 5 percent below the average for all workers with a bachelor's degree.
History majors who work for private, for-profit firms, the handbook shows, earned nearly $50,000, while self-employed history majors with their own businesses earn an average of $65,200 annually. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| A college degree in the 70's meant something. Today, it doesn't mean squat. Too many student loan companies and banks making money for it to end anytime soon. Oh, and the infinite mantra of "a college degree is the only way to success" continues to fleece new generations of students. A vicious cycle. What are Bachelor degrees equal to today? High school diplomas, only a more expensive version. |
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machinoman
Joined: 12 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:11 am Post subject: |
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hmmm... i guess all the psychology diplomas my college is handing out are actually going to future psychologists... soon there will be one psychologist for every person in the world!
but seriously, college is basically a new tax. its hard to get a job without a degree (unless you have good connections), but a degree doesn't really prove qualifications. the entire point of college has been lost. it is supposed to be HARDER than high school. now it is a profit based joke. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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^^ This
If I had known in college what I came to know years later, that one could go into real estate without a degree I probably wouldn't be here now.
Lets face it, sales (in any profession) usually doesn't require a degree. All you need is some integrity, personality and energy to make it all work out. What's more, you earn what you put in- something the corporate/bureaucratic world doesn't want you to know. |
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Zulethe
Joined: 04 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Worst-Paying College Degrees |
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| World Traveler wrote: |
http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-worst_paying_college_degrees-1263
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10. Drama (starting annual salary: $35,600; mid-career annual salary: $56,600)
Some mega-millionaire movie stars with drama degrees (Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep, for instance) may be skewing these numbers upward--for every Denzel and Meryl, there are thousands of thespians struggling to make ends meet. But you don't study drama because you want to get rich--you study drama because you love the theater. (And an ability to act comes in handy in many professions.)
9. Fine arts (starting annual salary: $35,800; mid-career annual salary: $56,300)
Well, it takes an artist to make a thrift-store wardrobe look like a million bucks.
8. Hospitality and tourism (starting annual salary: $37,000; mid-career annual salary: $54,300)
Jobs that include tips may be skewing these numbers downward--and this is an industry that looks to be on the rebound as the economy improves. Plus, the perks associated with jobs in hospitality and tourism may compensate for the comparatively low salaries--many jobs in the industry allow extensive travel (or provide considerable travel discounts).
7. Education (starting annual salary: $36,200; mid-career annual salary: $54,100)
For the right people, teaching is an immensely rewarding career--and it's truly a noble one. The good news is, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the employment opportunities for primary, secondary, and special education teachers are expected to grow by 14 percent in the coming decade. And there will be plenty of new opportunities in continuing education for adults, as professional skill requirements change ever more rapidly.
6. Horticulture (starting annual salary: $37,200; mid-career annual salary: $53,400)
It seems that a green thumb doesn't necessarily bring in the greenbacks. But when you work among flowers and plants in a nursery or garden, who needs 'em?
5. Spanish (starting annual salary: $35,600; mid-career annual salary: $52,600)
As an old proverb puts it, when you learn a new language, you "gain a new soul." Who could put a price on that? And certainly, knowing Spanish--the language with the second-highest number of native speakers (after Mandarin)--in addition to English opens up a world of job opportunities beyond Spanish teacher or translator (as a plus, you can better enjoy a world of fantastic Spanish-language music, movies, and literature).
4. Music (starting annual salary: $34,000; mid-career annual salary: $52,000)
Hey, if being a musician were easy, everyone would do it. Some of us are guitar heroes; most of us just play the video game.
3. Theology (starting annual salary: $34,800; mid-career annual salary: $51,500)
This is the perfect example of a degree earned by someone who's "not in it for the money": people who choose to study theology often feel they're pursuing a higher calling (and often feel a strong desire to do good in the world, no matter the cost).
2. Elementary education (starting annual salary: $33,000; mid-career annual salary: $42,400)
Specializing in elementary education means a lower median salary than an education degree (number 7).
1. Social work (starting annual salary: $33,400; mid-career annual salary: $41,600)
They say that crime doesn't pay. As this list seems to point out, neither does helping people. So it's a good thing that many college students seem to believe that helping others is its own reward--social workers are an indispensable safety net for people who've fallen on difficult times. And the BLS reports that the outlook for opportunities in this field are favorable--particularly for social workers who work in rural areas or with senior citizens. |
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Maybe if you only have a BA then these figures are accurate. When I finish my MSW, I'll be starting out around 50,000 and if I work hard, I'll max out around 90-100,000 |
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Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: Worst-Paying College Degrees |
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| Zulethe wrote: |
| World Traveler wrote: |
http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-worst_paying_college_degrees-1263
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10. Drama (starting annual salary: $35,600; mid-career annual salary: $56,600)
Some mega-millionaire movie stars with drama degrees (Denzel Washington and Meryl Streep, for instance) may be skewing these numbers upward--for every Denzel and Meryl, there are thousands of thespians struggling to make ends meet. But you don't study drama because you want to get rich--you study drama because you love the theater. (And an ability to act comes in handy in many professions.)
9. Fine arts (starting annual salary: $35,800; mid-career annual salary: $56,300)
Well, it takes an artist to make a thrift-store wardrobe look like a million bucks.
8. Hospitality and tourism (starting annual salary: $37,000; mid-career annual salary: $54,300)
Jobs that include tips may be skewing these numbers downward--and this is an industry that looks to be on the rebound as the economy improves. Plus, the perks associated with jobs in hospitality and tourism may compensate for the comparatively low salaries--many jobs in the industry allow extensive travel (or provide considerable travel discounts).
7. Education (starting annual salary: $36,200; mid-career annual salary: $54,100)
For the right people, teaching is an immensely rewarding career--and it's truly a noble one. The good news is, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the employment opportunities for primary, secondary, and special education teachers are expected to grow by 14 percent in the coming decade. And there will be plenty of new opportunities in continuing education for adults, as professional skill requirements change ever more rapidly.
6. Horticulture (starting annual salary: $37,200; mid-career annual salary: $53,400)
It seems that a green thumb doesn't necessarily bring in the greenbacks. But when you work among flowers and plants in a nursery or garden, who needs 'em?
5. Spanish (starting annual salary: $35,600; mid-career annual salary: $52,600)
As an old proverb puts it, when you learn a new language, you "gain a new soul." Who could put a price on that? And certainly, knowing Spanish--the language with the second-highest number of native speakers (after Mandarin)--in addition to English opens up a world of job opportunities beyond Spanish teacher or translator (as a plus, you can better enjoy a world of fantastic Spanish-language music, movies, and literature).
4. Music (starting annual salary: $34,000; mid-career annual salary: $52,000)
Hey, if being a musician were easy, everyone would do it. Some of us are guitar heroes; most of us just play the video game.
3. Theology (starting annual salary: $34,800; mid-career annual salary: $51,500)
This is the perfect example of a degree earned by someone who's "not in it for the money": people who choose to study theology often feel they're pursuing a higher calling (and often feel a strong desire to do good in the world, no matter the cost).
2. Elementary education (starting annual salary: $33,000; mid-career annual salary: $42,400)
Specializing in elementary education means a lower median salary than an education degree (number 7).
1. Social work (starting annual salary: $33,400; mid-career annual salary: $41,600)
They say that crime doesn't pay. As this list seems to point out, neither does helping people. So it's a good thing that many college students seem to believe that helping others is its own reward--social workers are an indispensable safety net for people who've fallen on difficult times. And the BLS reports that the outlook for opportunities in this field are favorable--particularly for social workers who work in rural areas or with senior citizens. |
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Maybe if you only have a BA then these figures are accurate. When I finish my MSW, I'll be starting out around 50,000 and if I work hard, I'll max out around 90-100,000 |
Good grief. No offense (although what I'm about to say will likely offend you)but this sort of pay for unproductive jobs is what's driving local govts to bankruptcy. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Social workers produce a service. |
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magnolialove
Joined: 21 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| A college degree in the 70's meant something. Today, it doesn't mean squat. Too many student loan companies and banks making money for it to end anytime soon. Oh, and the infinite mantra of "a college degree is the only way to success" continues to fleece new generations of students. A vicious cycle. What are Bachelor degrees equal to today? High school diplomas, only a more expensive version. |
+10
I wish my parents understood this. Heck I wish I would have understood this before signing my soul away to the bank. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Social workers produce a service. |
They are more like a band aid. A band aid for a wound that was originally (for the most part) inflicted by govt policies. For instance welfare dependency, unemployment, economic depressions, All these things lead to despondency and dissatisfaction with one's life which leads to the need for social workers in the first place.
So, yes. They do produce a service. But only in the sense that if I went out and smashed a heap of windows, I would be producing work for glaziers, but I wouldn't be improving the over all welfare of society. |
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AsiaESLbound
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Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Seems like these salary figures haven't changed in 20 years. |
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World Traveler
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| "The data also demonstrate the extent to which having such a degree pays off: average earnings in 2008 totaled $83,144 for those with an advanced degree, compared with $58,613 for those with a bachelor�s degree only," the bureau said in its statement. |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36663479/ns/us_news-census_2010/ |
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