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| Which you like like better British or American Hardcore punk? |
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Fishead soup
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea
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 Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: British vs American Hardcore punk |
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Which do you like better
British hardcore punk- My personal favorite is Conflict. Their politics are similar to Crass but there sound is more Oi. I also like The UK Subbs.
American Hardcore- My favorite are The Dead Kennady's, Bad Brains are a close second followed by The Circle Jerks.
The best stuff came out during the cold war the Reagan/Thatcher years.
I also love the movie: Repo Man |
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soakitincider
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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Grew up with D.H. Peligro. That Jello dude is out there.
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| i like them both, but i'll generally give the nod to american hardcore because i think they tended to be more original (like the two you listed, DK and bad brains) and were willing to try new things beyond the punk formula. but then again, the brits had wire. wire was pretty damn good. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Am I gonna get blasted for liking Rancid?
I was never too concerned with the specifics of genres so forgive me if they aren't hardcore. |
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detourne_me
Joined: 26 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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Are we talking early '80s hardcore or modern stuff too?
The Adolescents have gone through a few phases, incredible---lame---incredible.
i loved the movie Suburbia. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 12:53 am Post subject: Re: British vs American Hardcore punk |
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| Fishead soup wrote: |
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I would never describe them as being hardcore.
I have a big love of American hardcore (and associated genres). I love Minor Threat, Converge, Black Flag, Dillinger Escape Plan, Bad Brains, Rites of Spring, Nation of Ulysses, etc., etc. Awesome, awesome music.
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dirving
Joined: 19 Nov 2009
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| Some of the Dead Kennedy stuff packs an entertaining whallop. |
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FMPJ
Joined: 03 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:32 am Post subject: |
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BAD BRAINS
GERMS
the end. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:20 am Post subject: Re: British vs American Hardcore punk |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The Dead Kennady's |
I would never describe them as being hardcore.
I have a big love of American hardcore (and associated genres). I love Minor Threat, Converge, Black Flag, Dillinger Escape Plan, Big Brains, Rites of Spring, Nation of Ulysses, etc., etc. Awesome, awesome music. |
And I wouldn't list some of those bands as being "punk." "Hardcore punk" is a misleading genre name. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
Am I gonna get blasted for liking Rancid?
I was never too concerned with the specifics of genres so forgive me if they aren't hardcore. |
Rancid was more of a punk band, and they came a bit late in the game. For their spiritual predecessor, who had a lot to do with the popular emergence of ska-punk, give Operation Ivy a listen. |
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Bloopity Bloop
Joined: 26 Apr 2009
Location: Seoul yo
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| reactionary wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
Am I gonna get blasted for liking Rancid?
I was never too concerned with the specifics of genres so forgive me if they aren't hardcore. |
Rancid was more of a punk band, and they came a bit late in the game. For their spiritual predecessor, who had a lot to do with the popular emergence of ska-punk, give Operation Ivy a listen. |
Thanks for the rec, but I am well aware of Op Ivy and pretty much all the bands listed in this thread. I just f***ing love Rancid and wasn't aware that time periods mattered in this thread. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
| reactionary wrote: |
| Bloopity Bloop wrote: |
Am I gonna get blasted for liking Rancid?
I was never too concerned with the specifics of genres so forgive me if they aren't hardcore. |
Rancid was more of a punk band, and they came a bit late in the game. For their spiritual predecessor, who had a lot to do with the popular emergence of ska-punk, give Operation Ivy a listen. |
Thanks for the rec, but I am well aware of Op Ivy and pretty much all the bands listed in this thread. I just f***ing love Rancid and wasn't aware that time periods mattered in this thread. |
Genres die over time. Examples: ragtime and disco. |
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morrisonhotel
Joined: 18 Jul 2009
Location: Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:32 am Post subject: Re: British vs American Hardcore punk |
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| reactionary wrote: |
| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The Dead Kennady's |
I would never describe them as being hardcore.
I have a big love of American hardcore (and associated genres). I love Minor Threat, Converge, Black Flag, Dillinger Escape Plan, Bad Brains, Rites of Spring, Nation of Ulysses, etc., etc. Awesome, awesome music. |
And I wouldn't list some of those bands as being "punk." "Hardcore punk" is a misleading genre name. |
Where did I describe any of those bands as being punk? Hardcore punk and punk are different genres. Dead Kennedys lack the aggressiveness and heavier side to the music that was so synonymous with hardcore. They were clearly an out and out punk rock band - that is, not heavy enough and not enough metal in their sound to be described as hardcore. Think differently? Have a listen to Black Flag, Minor Threat or any of the other early hardcore bands. Much more of a metal sound than Dead Kennedys. |
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sesyeux
Joined: 20 Jul 2009
Location: king 'arrys
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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only listen[ed] ever to minor threat / black flag.
used to be really into most bridge 9 bands and stuff like sworn in, champion, these days all i seem to listen to is stuff like saetia, joshua fit for battle, jeromes dream etc etc blah blah blah fjsbd |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 4:20 pm Post subject: Re: British vs American Hardcore punk |
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| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| reactionary wrote: |
| morrisonhotel wrote: |
| Fishead soup wrote: |
| The Dead Kennady's |
I would never describe them as being hardcore.
I have a big love of American hardcore (and associated genres). I love Minor Threat, Converge, Black Flag, Dillinger Escape Plan, Bad Brains, Rites of Spring, Nation of Ulysses, etc., etc. Awesome, awesome music. |
And I wouldn't list some of those bands as being "punk." "Hardcore punk" is a misleading genre name. |
Where did I describe any of those bands as being punk? Hardcore punk and punk are different genres. Dead Kennedys lack the aggressiveness and heavier side to the music that was so synonymous with hardcore. They were clearly an out and out punk rock band - that is, not heavy enough and not enough metal in their sound to be described as hardcore. Think differently? Have a listen to Black Flag, Minor Threat or any of the other early hardcore bands. Much more of a metal sound than Dead Kennedys. |
I've listened to, hell, own the discography of, every band you've named besides nation of Ulysses. However, the title of this thread is "Hardcore punk," so I thought we were staying on topic.
It's funny you bring up metal because DK had a few slower, "sludgier" songs that I would associate with metal more than speedy hardcore with its minimal guitar riffs.
But that's why putting music into specific genres is such a pointless endeavor, innit? |
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