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Can Koreans Teach English Without Degrees?
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GreenlightmeansGO



Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Can Koreans Teach English Without Degrees? Reply with quote

I never thought I would make a post like this, but I have a Korean friend who is in a spot of trouble money-wise and is thinking of teaching English. She, however, has no degree...

What, if any, are her options?
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furtakk



Joined: 02 Jun 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girlfriend and two other Korean friends do.

They are currently in university, but none of them have completed a degree. I'm sure it's sketchy, but it seems somewhat common practice. My girlfriend in particular has worked at 2 or 3 different hagwons and has had a number of privates.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Can Koreans Teach English Without Degrees? Reply with quote

GreenlightmeansGO wrote:
I never thought I would make a post like this, but I have a Korean friend who is in a spot of trouble money-wise and is thinking of teaching English. She, however, has no degree...

What, if any, are her options?


Can they do it legally = no (with some exceptions (like uni students doing tutoring)..

Can they do it = yes. It is NOT uncommon.

What happens if they get caught?

IF they used fake degrees then they can be prosecuted. (there were some high profile cases like this a few years ago (2005/6?)

If they did NOT use a fake degree then they get fired and the employer gets fined.

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rickpidero



Joined: 03 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 6:43 pm    Post subject: my friend... Reply with quote

My friend doesn't have a degree and does tutoring. Although his English is really good because he studied in American for awhile.

And, many college students tutor on the side.
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schlotzy



Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some teachers at my school who teach without degrees I think. However they have some sort of certificates for studying aboard in Native English countries. Not sure if it's legal though...

go with ttompatz on this one Smile
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: On the road to somewhere.

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once worked in a hagwon with a Korean uni student who was teaching English. I was told not to tell the parents that she hadn't graduated ( yet?).

Basically, hagwons are the wild west of English education. I also had a friend who was told to tell the parents that he had degrees in teaching and education. His hagwon even advertised on their front door that he had these bogus degrees (lol).
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riverboy



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not? There are plenty of foreigners who do!
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schlotzy wrote:
There are some teachers at my school who teach without degrees I think. However they have some sort of certificates for studying aboard in Native English countries. Not sure if it's legal though...

go with ttompatz on this one Smile


A certificate of having lived abroad? Geez, does that mean if I lived in China for a year, the immigration stamps are my certificate to teach Chinese?

And let me tell you, I'll wager that a high number of gyopos from Southern California teaching English here never finished college, let alone obtain literacy.


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T-dot



Joined: 16 May 2004
Location: bundang

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its illegal for Koreans to teach in any academy or school without a degree.

These shady hagwons will not report any employees to the MOE without a degree.

Another option that is illegal, but common is to go the private tutor route. Parents dont normally ask for a copy of a degree from their tutor.
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Whitey Otez



Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: The suburbs of Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worked alongside a few illegal teachers at reputable places, if it's unlawful to teach without a degree. The most recent time, the teacher had to provide the same sort of criminal background check that I did, and for the record she was the most proficient and beloved teacher at the school.
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toniyellow



Joined: 30 Sep 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they can do it legally, and in public schools. I was told there is some kind of english proficiency certificate to become 'instructors'.

I work in a public school and have four coteachers. Three are English teachers at my school who teach multiple grades, and one is an 'English instructor' who works at another school three days a week and my school two days a week, only teaching 4th grade.

The 'English instructor' is the second oldest of them all but is treated like she is the lowest - they will not share things with her or eat lunch with her.
Her contract sounds like mine - she was told she also has to come in and deskwarm during summer vacation.

One of the regular coteachers lied to her in front of me to deny they had any spare books for her. I asked her why later since there are spare books and she told me Mrs Lee is a nice person but she did not go to university, and the English teachers are very upset. She gave me a long lecture on Lee Myung Bak's educational reform and how it is the root of all evil and if they give any help to the instructors they will steal all the real teachers jobs.

I know Ms Lee lived in the USA for two years, and worked a a hagwon for a while. Her English is almost perfect and she is actually the best coteacher to work with as far as I am concerned, willing to try anything new. But she has no degree.
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curiousaboutkorea



Joined: 21 Jan 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:

A certificate of having lived abroad? Geez, does that mean if I lived in China for a year, the immigration stamps are my certificate to teach Chinese?


I just got an e-mail from a non-accredited university awarding degrees based on life-experience. I'll forward it your way. Razz
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Samurai Blur



Joined: 20 Aug 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girlfriend is teaching English at an academy in Daegu for the summer break right now. She's been in college in the states for two years now, and her English is really good, but she has no degree.
I'm sure your friend can find a way. She knew the owner of the academy she's teaching in.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

curiousaboutkorea wrote:
Yaya wrote:

A certificate of having lived abroad? Geez, does that mean if I lived in China for a year, the immigration stamps are my certificate to teach Chinese?


I just got an e-mail from a non-accredited university awarding degrees based on life-experience. I'll forward it your way. Razz


Let's see if there are any boneheaded employers who'd be dumb enough to hire someone with such a degree. Rolling Eyes
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EuroFunk



Joined: 09 Oct 2008
Location: jobless in Busan

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's possible to teach English without a degree by going through an internship program. They are usually sponsored by the big programs (GEPIK, EPIK) that allow Koreans and people with 2 or more years of university education.

I seem to be having a hard time finding a place to work.
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