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guava
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Q: What do you call the last day of a pirate's life?
A: His expiration date |
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darkjedidave
Joined: 19 Aug 2009
Location: Shanghai/Seoul
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| guava wrote: |
Q: What do you call the last day of a pirate's life?
A: His expiration date |
I was expecting you to say "expAAARRRRation" date |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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| On the other hand wrote: |
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| Wishmaster wrote: |
| They don't give a crap about being PC. They don't care about violating a criminal's rights. They don't have lawyers running up to protect the poor, innocent pirates. |
Political correctness is not the application of due process and individual rights in criminal law. |
There are no laws in that part of the ocean. That's why no one knows wtf to do when they capture the pirates. Russia found an effective option |
So, if we can justify the Russians' actions with the "no laws on the high seas" rationale, can we justify the pirates' actions in the same way? No law means no law. |
Well, that's basically what they are doing. They come from a lawless country and do lawless things to fund lawless enterprises. In that situation, may the best man win. |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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The West has been executing pirates summarily for centuries. This is nothing new (well, except that Russia isn't really Western... although their Gucci bags say otherwise) and not particularly shocking.
Sure. tradition isn't an excuse. But the pirates knew what they were up against. By their actions they volunteered to walk the plank. |
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tfunk
Joined: 12 Aug 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Did Russia renege on any promises with the pirates? If so, expect future negotiations with hostages to be bloodier. |
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The Happy Warrior
Joined: 10 Feb 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| .38 Special wrote: |
| Russia isn't really Western... |
European Russia is fairly Western. |
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thomas pars
Joined: 29 Jan 2009
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Wow after the failed Beslan seige and the Moscow theater crisis I was
beginning to wonder if Russia could actually manage a successful
rescue operation. |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| It's lawless out there so anyone with the guns can do as they please up until someone with more of an advantage steps in. In theory, anyone can be their own police off the coast of Africa and serve justice as they please which includes murdering the criminals. It's still the wild West out there. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:20 am Post subject: |
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Yemeni court sentences 6 pirates to death.
Guess that's another "solution" to fighting pirates.
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SAN'A, Yemen � A Yemeni security court has convicted six Somalis for piracy and sentenced them to death for seizing an oil tanker.
Six other convicted pirates received 10 year prison sentences on Tuesday and the pirates they must together pay $2 million compensation to the Aden refinery company, which owns the tanker.
Yemeni coast guard forces freed the Yemeni oil tanker Qana in April last year shortly after it was attacked and hijacked by the pirates. |
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mises
Joined: 05 Nov 2007
Location: retired
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
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| They don't give a crap about being PC. They don't care about violating a criminal's rights. They don't have lawyers running up to protect the poor, innocent pirates. |
Political correctness is not the application of due process and individual rights in criminal law. |
There are no laws in that part of the ocean. That's why no one knows wtf to do when they capture the pirates. Russia found an effective option |
They should use the smallest amount of force necessary. |
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.38 Special
Joined: 08 Jul 2009
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| mises wrote: |
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| They don't give a crap about being PC. They don't care about violating a criminal's rights. They don't have lawyers running up to protect the poor, innocent pirates. |
Political correctness is not the application of due process and individual rights in criminal law. |
There are no laws in that part of the ocean. That's why no one knows wtf to do when they capture the pirates. Russia found an effective option |
They should use the smallest amount of force necessary. |
Floating takes very little energy, although when or if they ever make it to shore is somewhat unpredictable. |
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