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Need advice from someone who has been in Korea for awhile!

 
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drk76



Joined: 15 Dec 2009
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:07 pm    Post subject: Need advice from someone who has been in Korea for awhile! Reply with quote

I'm about to come up to my third contract. And I really don't know if I have it good where I am or if I could do better. I have to decide soon as they are pressuring me to sign the new contract.

Jung Chul Adult Institute
Pay 2.5
All the usual benefits provided
teaching 6 classes of adults
Have to be at work for 8 hours a day.
Time 6:20am-2:30 pm or 1-9pm

Good points.
I am one of only 3 native teachers hired by Jung Chul's adult institute, they don't really know what to do with us, so we usually get our way.
Not to much conflict, just the usual stuff.
Teaching is not to difficult. I do some prep and planning but not to the point where I have to work overtime. Maybe once a week.
No split shift.

Bad points:
Last native teacher stuck around for 5 years but never got a pay raise.
I've been at 2.5 for the past 2 years. I really don't see them giving me a raise. They started us high from the first year and don't seem to see why it should go up anymore.

Bottom line is am I stupid to stay around a third year for 2.5. Should I expect better for my 3rd year of teaching? Or do I still have it pretty good for a 3rd year teacher? Where can I find these rumored 3-4 million won jobs?

Thanks for the advice!!
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ChilgokBlackHole



Joined: 21 Nov 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jung Chul is pretty big, and that's a decent salary. If you like the job.. I dunno, I might stick with it.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Need advice from someone who has been in Korea for awhil Reply with quote

drk76 wrote:
I'm about to come up to my third contract. And I really don't know if I have it good where I am or if I could do better. I have to decide soon as they are pressuring me to sign the new contract.

Jung Chul Adult Institute
Pay 2.5
All the usual benefits provided
teaching 6 classes of adults
Have to be at work for 8 hours a day.
Time 6:20am-2:30 pm or 1-9pm

Good points.
I am one of only 3 native teachers hired by Jung Chul's adult institute, they don't really know what to do with us, so we usually get our way.
Not to much conflict, just the usual stuff.
Teaching is not to difficult. I do some prep and planning but not to the point where I have to work overtime. Maybe once a week.
No split shift.

Bad points:
Last native teacher stuck around for 5 years but never got a pay raise.
I've been at 2.5 for the past 2 years. I really don't see them giving me a raise. They started us high from the first year and don't seem to see why it should go up anymore.

Bottom line is am I stupid to stay around a third year for 2.5. Should I expect better for my 3rd year of teaching? Or do I still have it pretty good for a 3rd year teacher? Where can I find these rumored 3-4 million won jobs?

Thanks for the advice!!


There are a few different ways to make 3-4 million per month.

1. Work at a hagwon like CDI where you work your tail off, have almost no vacation, and really do earn your pay.

2. A good university job will pay a minimum of 3 million per month...but these jobs require an MA or 3 years of university level experience to even apply.

3. Most lower level university jobs will pay around 3 million if you work overtime.

I am in situation #3...I currently make over 3 million with my overtime, which is a total of 28 contact hours per week plus 6 hours of office hours. So my schedule is pretty full but I still go home early twice a week and come in late once a week, so I am not even at the school for 40 hours per week.

You can definitely get a university job after 2 years in Korea....if money is what you're after, find a school that has an on-site hagwon. These schools provide ample opportunity to make over 3 million if you want the OT. Often you'll teach your regular classes during the day and then kids classes in the evenings, though.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Fri May 14, 2010 7:09 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

Who's awhile? Smile
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BoholDiver



Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd ask for a pay raise, and see what happens. If they like you enough, they may feel like you will leave if they refuse. If they refuse, you can cross that bridge when you get there.

It sounds like a nice job overall for someone who doesn't have an F-2 visa. Do you get red days off an 10 or more vacation days a year?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always felt that the best route was to work your way up through the hagwon/public school system, into unigwon/low tier university jobs, and then into the better university jobs.
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Lionman



Joined: 13 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Sat May 15, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: High paying job Reply with quote

We'll I've got one of those high paying deals. Don't know if I count since I now have residency here, (F5 visa) but there might be some useful bits I can offer.

I lived in Seoul for about 5 years before I got contacted by an agency to teach at a company about an hour outside of Seoul.

I taught part time there 2 hours a day for a year at around 80,000 an hour before taxes.

The 80,000 included transportation which would sometimes total over 200,000 a month just going to and fro. I also assumed they were paying more since it was such an out-of-the-way location.

Fast forward one year. I made a deal with the company to work directly with them.

The agency was pissed and of course asked for a settlement from me.

The company paid the settlement for me and I started working there weekdays from 2-7pm.

They paid me salary, just over 4 mil a month after taxes.

After one year I asked for fewer hours at the same pay. They refused but agreed to a counter offer of mine for 2 weeks paid vacation instead of the standard 1 week for all employees.

So, if I were you I might ask for the raise and if they deny that ask for some sort of other benefit, more vacation time, reimbursement for transportation, or something that might be just as good as cash, free meals, gift certificates on major holidays.

It doesn't hurt to ask.
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