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charger



Joined: 24 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Negativity much? (link) Reply with quote

I'm thinking of teaching in Korea and it seems like people either love it, or hate it. Take this (quite bitter) blog:

http://teachingenglishsucksinkorea.blogspot.com/2010/02/7-lies.html

I think he works in a public school, something I do not plan on doing

It seems like there is so much negativity out there about teaching in Korea but I wonder how much of it is just a manifestation of home sickness, culture shock, and the shocking realization that you are over here to work. It seems like a lot of these bitter people have never traveled outside their own little bubble. I can't say that I haven't been there myself; I lived in the netherlands for a year and I had my moments of culture shock and bitterness, but it was a worthwhile experience nonetheless.

I'm not in Korea, but it is really seems like there are a lot of jaded people out there.
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schlotzy



Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that actually most people would say that public school jobs are better than hagwans...that is unless you're against waking up before noon.
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schlotzy



Joined: 10 Mar 2010
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, as much as I love Korea, if you haven't been here, you really can't say. I can guarantee you, it's not like living in Europe or traveling in Thailand. Working and living in Korea can be REALLY frustrating sometimes. You will have days where you feel as though you could spontaneously combust. Possibly many more than you'd have at home. But yeah, you're right. Some people deal with it better than others, and some people probably just aren't cut out to be here. Love it or hate it I guess.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a lot of it depends on the situation you find yourself in over here, but i can definitely see people becoming that negative. on a side note though, i read a bit of the blogger's section on camps and he was actually given half-days... anyways, from what i read his position doesn't sound that bad.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You summed up the situation quite well.

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It seems like there is so much negativity out there about teaching in Korea but I wonder how much of it is just a manifestation of home sickness, culture shock, and the shocking realization that you are over here to work. It seems like a lot of these bitter people have never traveled outside their own little bubble. I can't say that I haven't been there myself; I lived in the netherlands for a year and I had my moments of culture shock and bitterness, but it was a worthwhile experience nonetheless.


A lot of it boils down to "Where ever you go, there you are." A lot of what you read on Dave's is venting. It isn't representative of life in Korea.

On the other hand, there are some things that genuinely suck about Korea. Some other things are just different, but people construe them as being suck. Sometimes the few genuinely suck things and the myriad of differences that seem sucky can all pile on top of each other and you can't see the good things out from under that pile.

Really, it's your responsibility to make of Korea, and traveling in general, what you want from it.
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Senior



Joined: 31 Jan 2010

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Negativity much? (link) Reply with quote

charger wrote:
I'm thinking of teaching in Korea and it seems like people either love it, or hate it. Take this (quite bitter) blog:

http://teachingenglishsucksinkorea.blogspot.com/2010/02/7-lies.html

I think he works in a public school, something I do not plan on doing

It seems like there is so much negativity out there about teaching in Korea but I wonder how much of it is just a manifestation of home sickness, culture shock, and the shocking realization that you are over here to work. It seems like a lot of these bitter people have never traveled outside their own little bubble. I can't say that I haven't been there myself; I lived in the netherlands for a year and I had my moments of culture shock and bitterness, but it was a worthwhile experience nonetheless.

I'm not in Korea, but it is really seems like there are a lot of jaded people out there.


Good grief, I just read the first 10 posts of that blog. His story is quite common, but it's because he took a combative approach to his school life. And didn't learn to play Korean work culture to his favor.

The first lesson you need to learn is

"It's always easier to apologise, than to ask for permission."

In one of his posts he gets pissy because the VP wouldn't let him go home early on a day when there were no classes. The best tactic is to push those situations/ test the waters. Start by going home 30 mins early. If you get in trouble apologize profusely. Make a lame excuse.

More likely, nothing will happen. Next time, go home an hour or two early. After a while, you will be able to stop showing up at all on those days. Especially in the summer and winter vacations.

If you ask permission the answer will always be "No", and they will make sure you stay till the final whistle. It's smarter to leave the situation ambiguous. It's easier for everyone.

There are probably a million things I could've pointed out to this guy, that would have made his life easier. He didn't learn to "Play the game", as it were.

Well, I'm off home now. My students are on school trip. I will fill you in, in the morning if I get any grief.
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creeper1



Joined: 30 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:08 pm    Post subject: Loser Reply with quote

If the loser that wrote this blog was even lucky enough to get a job in McDonald's back home he would find that the manager never lets him go home early. Never!

"oh but look mr manager! There are no customers right now. No-one wants a hamburger at the moment!"

Yet he gets all pissy when the principal refuses him.

The guy probably never worked a day in his life.

The glass is always half full for this 100% negative person. He's really not worth discussing any further.

Check out other more positive blogs out there.. THere are plenty.

E.g. http://www.eatyourkimchi.com/
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8 years down



Joined: 16 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read all his articles and his experiences were very close to mine when I taught at a public school. I agree with a lot of what he says.

His article titled "summary" speaks many truths. If you are someone who loves teaching and really wants to make a difference in your students' lives, Korea is not the best place for this. You will only be disappointed and disheartened when the reality of what is actually going on sets in.

I never felt the need to escape as he did (I've lived in Korea for 8 years) but I can certainly understand his points and his blog is definitely worth reading, even if only for entertainment.
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air76



Joined: 13 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Negativity much? (link) Reply with quote

charger wrote:
I lived in the netherlands for a year and I had my moments of culture shock and bitterness, but it was a worthwhile experience nonetheless.


Life in Korea has its ups and downs and its pros and cons....in the end the vast majority of people have a great time here but leave after 1-2 years. Korea has an expiration date for most people....this isn't true for everyone, but most people hit that day where they just have had enough and need to get out.

Spending a year in Korea is nothing remotely like spending a year in the Netherlands. Before living in Korea I had been to over 20 countries, and nothing prepared me for this place.

For the most part the negativity on Dave's is not indicative of the average person's experience here....but there are real challenges to living here that can't be denied, and many of the horror stories are 100% true.

All in all in my opinion it is 100% worth the shot to come here and see if you like it....and it is 100% imperative that you get out no later than 3-4 years after you come.
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jonpurdy



Joined: 08 Jan 2009
Location: Ulsan

PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just read through a few of those posts (car crash; can't look away). This guy is a miserable, inflexible, small-minded person.

If you are a newbie reading this I'd suggest ignoring most of what he says. Most of the situations he gets into and problems he has are caused by his own inflexibility.
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