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Fox
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| I don't think limiting the amount of salt in food is a good idea. Simply requiring an honest report of the salt content is sufficient. |
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Senior
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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You can tell how much salt is in a product by its order on the ingredients list.
It's a moot point anyway, because salt is only bad for you if you are already sick. It doesn't actually cause any diseases.
Some people (myself included), don't eat enough salt(well, iodine) and are at risk of developing goiters. We will probably see a completely unexplainable upswing in the prevalence of that particular disease. As well as god knows what else. |
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chellovek
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Ketchup? Well that does it! |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| You can tell how much salt is in a product by its order on the ingredients list. |
Which is, I believe, the result of governmental mandates.
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| It's a moot point anyway, because salt is only bad for you if you are already sick. It doesn't actually cause any diseases. |
Surely you agree that companies should have to give customers information on the content of products designed for ingestion regardless of what is believed to be the case about what is or isn't safe?
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| Some people (myself included), don't eat enough salt(well, iodine) and are at risk of developing goiters. We will probably see a completely unexplainable upswing in the prevalence of that particular disease. As well as god knows what else. |
People can always add salt to their meals if they like. This regulation is silly because it's needless, not because it's potentially harmful. Anyone harmed by a regulation like this is essentially incapable of taking care of themselves.
By the way Chellovek, I really like your avatar. I don't know exactly where that's from or what it's supposed to mean, but for some reason I feel it's very representative of our society.
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geldedgoat
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| F$%#. Good ketchup was one of the things I was looking forward to when I transition back the States. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Fox wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| You can tell how much salt is in a product by its order on the ingredients list. |
Which is, I believe, the result of governmental mandates. |
Likely. However, if people wanted that info, companies would provide it.
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| Senior wrote: |
| It's a moot point anyway, because salt is only bad for you if you are already sick. It doesn't actually cause any diseases. |
Surely you agree that companies should have to give customers information on the content of products designed for ingestion regardless of what is believed to be the case about what is or isn't safe? |
They don't need to be compelled to do it. If people want it, companies will provide it. Those companies that refused to release the ingredients of their products would go out of business.
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| Some people (myself included), don't eat enough salt(well, iodine) and are at risk of developing goiters. We will probably see a completely unexplainable upswing in the prevalence of that particular disease. As well as god knows what else. |
People can always add salt to their meals if they like. This regulation is silly because it's needless, not because it's potentially harmful. Anyone harmed by a regulation like this is essentially incapable of taking care of themselves. |
That is impossible to know. Plenty of innocuous seeming regulations have dire results in the real world.
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By the way Chellovek, I really like your avatar. I don't know exactly where that's from or what it's supposed to mean, but for some reason I feel it's very representative of our society. |
It looks a little bit like Thunderbirds, but I think it is one of the clones of that show. There was one called "Jonny Rocket" or some such. |
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chellovek
Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| You can tell how much salt is in a product by its order on the ingredients list. |
Which is, I believe, the result of governmental mandates. |
Likely. However, if people wanted that info, companies would provide it.
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| Senior wrote: |
| It's a moot point anyway, because salt is only bad for you if you are already sick. It doesn't actually cause any diseases. |
Surely you agree that companies should have to give customers information on the content of products designed for ingestion regardless of what is believed to be the case about what is or isn't safe? |
They don't need to be compelled to do it. If people want it, companies will provide it. Those companies that refused to release the ingredients of their products would go out of business.
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| Senior wrote: |
| Some people (myself included), don't eat enough salt(well, iodine) and are at risk of developing goiters. We will probably see a completely unexplainable upswing in the prevalence of that particular disease. As well as god knows what else. |
People can always add salt to their meals if they like. This regulation is silly because it's needless, not because it's potentially harmful. Anyone harmed by a regulation like this is essentially incapable of taking care of themselves. |
That is impossible to know. Plenty of innocuous seeming regulations have dire results in the real world.
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By the way Chellovek, I really like your avatar. I don't know exactly where that's from or what it's supposed to mean, but for some reason I feel it's very representative of our society. |
It looks a little bit like Thunderbirds, but I think it is one of the clones of that show. There was one called "Jonny Rocket" or some such. |
Yeah when I found it was named as being Thunderbirds, but you could be right aobut it being some other show, I don't know. |
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Fox
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| Posted: Tue May 18, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
| Fox wrote: |
| Senior wrote: |
| You can tell how much salt is in a product by its order on the ingredients list. |
Which is, I believe, the result of governmental mandates. |
Likely. However, if people wanted that info, companies would provide it. |
Given companies have literally gone to court in attempt to defend their right to lie to customers, I think I'd prefer not to leave it to chance.
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| They don't need to be compelled to do it. If people want it, companies will provide it. Those companies that refused to release the ingredients of their products would go out of business. |
Pure article of faith.
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| Some people (myself included), don't eat enough salt(well, iodine) and are at risk of developing goiters. We will probably see a completely unexplainable upswing in the prevalence of that particular disease. As well as god knows what else. |
People can always add salt to their meals if they like. This regulation is silly because it's needless, not because it's potentially harmful. Anyone harmed by a regulation like this is essentially incapable of taking care of themselves. |
That is impossible to know. Plenty of innocuous seeming regulations have dire results in the real world. |
Again, anyone who isn't getting enough salt in their meal can just add more. This isn't some mysterious, unknowable unknown. It's a simple fact: you can add more salt if you want.
You're insisting that the consumer base is savvy and aware enough to collectively force companies to provide accurate labels of their ingredients for fear of going out of business, but simultaneously so unaware and boarderline retarded that they quite possibly will begin succumbing to illness due to salt (or iodine) deprivation, despite (iodized) salt being readily availible at the store. Which is it? Can they look out for themselves or not? |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 2:57 am Post subject: |
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They don't need to be compelled to do it. If people want it, companies will provide it. Those companies that refused to release the ingredients of their products would go out of business. |
Is that really how it happens? i mean, if a company doesn't disclose stuff, they go out of business? Got any examples? |
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Senior
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:04 am Post subject: |
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They don't need to be compelled to do it. If people want it, companies will provide it. Those companies that refused to release the ingredients of their products would go out of business. |
Is that really how it happens? i mean, if a company doesn't disclose stuff, they go out of business? Got any examples? |
If people really want the information they will buy products that provide it. If it were a thing that people really cared about and demanded, the companies that didn't provide it would make less profit, and eventually cease to exist. |
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mises
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visitorq
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:22 am Post subject: |
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How silly. They'll probably just ratchet up the 'umami' factor to compensate... more MSG in our food, that's what we need...
(or maybe Monsanto's pesticide division has discovered a new 'salt-flavored' additive the FDA is about to approve?) |
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Welsh Canadian
Joined: 03 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:27 am Post subject: |
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| Apparently Hint's Ketchup is the best. Also has less salt than Heinz |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu May 20, 2010 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Senior wrote: |
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They don't need to be compelled to do it. If people want it, companies will provide it. Those companies that refused to release the ingredients of their products would go out of business. |
Is that really how it happens? i mean, if a company doesn't disclose stuff, they go out of business? Got any examples? |
If people really want the information they will buy products that provide it. If it were a thing that people really cared about and demanded, the companies that didn't provide it would make less profit, and eventually cease to exist. |
Is that how it's worked through all of history? Without any government intervention, people simply asked and companies complied?
Is this seriously what you are trying to shill?? |
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