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[kiknkorea]

[travel zen]

Freedom of speech for the world has arrived

[dumpring]

poor gal's gunna get buggered by quran bashers

[NovaKart]

Lots of fascist groups on facebook. I've seen this in Turkey. Anti-kurdish and nationalist groups. I wonder if an anti-ataturk page would cause a facebook ban here. Facebook is so popular here, I wonder if that's what it would take to finally get free-speech in this country. Of course people could just use a proxy like what they do with youtube now. Anyway, I didn't mean to take over this thread. Just saying how facebook makes a platform for all kinds of groups, whatever your prejudices. I don't mean to suggest the cartoonist was prejudiced though.

[Steelrails]

Ahhhh yes, West-Muslim relations: We're allowed to mock your religious figures, but if you choose to wear a Burqa in public that is an insult to our culture and will not be permitted.

Mock Mohammed fine, but don't whine about some Iranian newspaper printing some anti-semitic cartoon. If you want to dish it out, be prepared to take it.

I dunno, silly me, I was always raised with the idea that you don't insult things held dear to other people like their religion, their country, or their mother. But I guess in today's society all three are fair game.

[Leslie Cheswyck]

Well, if all they did was mock back, then it wouldn't be so much of a problem.

But that's not exactly the case, is it?

[Fox]

I wonder if Muslims realize that, in showing such fanaticism with regards to this topic, they violate the very spirit of the prohibition in question. The reason their prophet is forbidden from being drawn is for fear of idolatry, nothing more; the focus of their religion is supposed to be on God, not on Mohammed. However, by showing such fanatical opposition to Mohammed being drawn by non-believers (who simply aren't at risk of worshipping Mohammed), they've elevated him into a sacred position above simply being God's messenger (after all, Muslims acknowledge previous prophets were also the messengers of God, but they don't forbid drawing them, nor do they protest it). Making Mohammed into "He Who Must Not Be Drawn," is just as blasphemous as drawing Mohammed and worshipping the picture; both put the focus of religious activity on the Prophet instead of on God.

I think these people can expect a taste of the Fire after they die, if their religion is correct.

[Fox]

[bigverne]

[Italy37612]

[Steelrails]

For a society that thrives on mockery we seem to have a pretty hard time taking it when Muslims mock us by wearing their veils and whatnot.

Look I get it that Muslims are just as guilty of the hypocrisy, but does anyone else think that banning burqas and veils while screaming about freedom of expression is seriously hypocritical?

And since when is the "They started it" defense a good one?

Let them have their veils. Let's take the high road and not mock that stuff. Debate it yes, mock it no.

As I said before, mocking someones religion is like mocking their mother. You just don't do it.

And since when are all Muslims extremists? What about the majority of Muslims that aren't extremists yet are getting their religious icon mocked?

Have some class.

To the person who said Muslims may do the same in their country, I wish it worked that way, but time and time again we try to enforce our way of life upon them.

Let them have their draconian sharia law. Let us have total freedom of expression. Just be consistent and respectful about it.

None of this you have to respect us, but we don't have to respect you. And again, don't say they started it. That doesn't make it right for us to do it to them.

[ED209]

[young_clinton]

[Fox]

[BoholDiver]

Key words. 'In their countries.'