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YBM ECC? Info?

 
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legume85



Joined: 22 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:48 pm    Post subject: YBM ECC? Info? Reply with quote

Hello everyone,

Is anyone familiar with YBM ECC? Any info, such as working conditions, would be greatly appreciated. I've read some not too good things about some of the franchises, but how are corporate-owned branches? ECC has shown interest in me, and I just want to get more info before I pursue them even further.

Thanks.
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Depths of My Soul



Joined: 04 Apr 2010
Location: In The Sun

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind extra info too. I had a recent phone interview with YBM ECC and it almost seemed 'too easy', which I'm a bit wary of.

OP may have read some similar things to me on researching. I found someone's blog from a while ago which mentioned LOADS of unnecessary extra work (ticking millions of boxes for millions of students) and saying something about being 'enslaved'.
No doubt exaggerations, Razz but still. It didn't sound great.
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Davew125



Joined: 11 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ECC is good for teachers with little or no experience. All the lessons are planned for you and books must finished on specific days, then every student moves to the next level regardless of where or not they have learnt anything. It can be very frustrating if you actually want to be a teacher but if you just want to float through your year then its not to bad. It's a big company so you'll have little trouble getting paid on time. Look into the specifics of your branch. The branch i worked for was run by an awful man who would squeeze every last penny and every last minute out of you with zero appreciation for the work you put in, but that may not be typical.
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isisaredead



Joined: 18 May 2010

PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it's like any other ECC, be prepared to work. it's a professional atmosphere, and if you're looking for a "working holiday", you could make a much better decision.

however, if you're a semi-professional kind of person, you'll find ECC refreshing compared to the circuses that are out there.

you get an extra four days off a year, too. that doesn't sound like much, but trust me, it is.
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soviet_man



Joined: 23 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I worked at YBM ECC 2005-2006 in a company-owned (non franchised) branch.

A few pointers.

* Monthly changes to working hours.
* Vacation time is well below average.
* Split shifts eg 10am-1pm and 4pm-7pm on some days.
* Having to write monthly report cards.
* Kinder, in general.
* Pay is below average.

Certainly YBM ECC has its down sides. But if you have no experience and fairly low expectations, then you will be fine there.

Perhaps the only good thing I can say about the company, is that irrespective of whatever other chaos they caused for foreign teachers, they did always pay on time. Confused
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musicmunky



Joined: 05 Oct 2009

PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ecc are supposed to beok
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Mr. BlackCat



Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

isisaredead wrote:

you get an extra four days off a year, too. that doesn't sound like much, but trust me, it is.


When I worked there a few years back this was definitely not the case. You get the hogwan standard 10 days, but they're all broken up so you get a random Wednesday here, a Tuesday there. They were careful to not give long weekends or extra days around national holidays because they don't want their employees going on out of country trips. Also, you get paid for 20 teaching days per month but if it works out that there are more business days than that in a month then you still have to come in for a meeting or conference or something. I'm not saying you should get extra days off, I'm saying they give you 7-10 classes a day and when your contract quota is full they still make you come to work but since you're not 'teaching' per se you get no OT. But you have to make a presentation or do something else. Same with frequent weekends. At least that was my experience.

Other than that I agree with what Soviet Man wrote. To go along with his point about schedule changes, don't believe anything they 'guarantee' you about hours. And split shifts suuuuuuuuck. For a while I was in from 10-5, sat around and taught another class at 7:30-8:15. And that 2.5 hours wasn't me time. The boss considered it company time and I had to do all sorts of things. Meanwhile those with block shifts never had to do the extras. And I'm talking writing up new materials, editing students' school homework, moving furniture, voice recording, cleaning, etc.

But I digress.
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CPT



Joined: 25 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's really going to depend on the particular ECC you end up at.

I've worked at two different ones, and both were fine, but very different. I would recommend ECC to a newbie. Someone with experience should be able to do a bit better, but they could certainly do a lot worse.
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