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teretere
Joined: 26 Mar 2010
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 Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:13 am Post subject: Mangwon Station |
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Anyone live/lived near Mangwon Station in Mangwon-dong?
I know this area has a reputation has a "poorer" area but by the looks of it, it seems ideal:
1. Near the Han River Bicycle/Jogging Trails
2. 1 stop from Hapjeong Station (and the greater Hondae area)
3. Near World Cup, Haneul, and Noeul Parks (total size equal to NYC's Central Park)
4. Low-rise "golmok" neighborhoods with a fresh produce/vegetable market (vs high rises that blot out the sun)
5. Lower property prices
Would appreciate your thoughts. |
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lille
Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:05 am Post subject: |
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Me and a few friends are converting a basement in Mangwon into an art studio and we all really dig the neighbourhood so far. There's an amazing coffee place about a ten minute walk from the station that this nice fellow seems to keep around just for a hobby. He has all sorts of small-batch roasting gadgets and seems surprised anytime he sees a customer. I'll post directions if you'd like!
Pretty soon we're going to try and get some furniture and a projector for the studio so we can do some film screenings (or at least play big screen SNES). I'll post into this thread when it happens. |
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teretere
Joined: 26 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you renting the basement or did you buy the place? |
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Drew345
Joined: 24 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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| I live about 7 mins from Mangwon, but away from the river, so maybe not the same neighborhood you are talking about. But I think Mangwon is great. The people in that fresh market area is really nice, and the post office also has the nicest staff (especially compared to the US). You can do a nice loop - take bus 9 to the end by the river. Walk along the river and through world cup park to Home Plus - do your shopping - take subway back home. |
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teretere
Joined: 26 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Drew345 wrote: |
| I live about 7 mins from Mangwon, but away from the river, so maybe not the same neighborhood you are talking about. But I think Mangwon is great. The people in that fresh market area is really nice, and the post office also has the nicest staff (especially compared to the US). You can do a nice loop - take bus 9 to the end by the river. Walk along the river and through world cup park to Home Plus - do your shopping - take subway back home. |
Thanks. Definitely thinking about re-locating there in the near future. |
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lille
Joined: 27 Jan 2009
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| oh, we're definitely renting. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat May 22, 2010 2:06 am Post subject: |
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I didn't like the area myself. But the location is pretty decent. Depends on what you are looking for.
I found the narrow roads to be annoying. No sidewalks and everyday, people fighting for parking spots. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:17 am Post subject: |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
I didn't like the area myself. But the location is pretty decent. Depends on what you are looking for.
I found the narrow roads to be annoying. No sidewalks and everyday, people fighting for parking spots. |
I'm a pedestrian, so I like the narrow streets, though taxi drivers are reluctant to take me all the way to my door. My building has seven apartments and one parking space. No one in the building owns a car right now, though, so it's usually empty when my friends come over with their car.
The location is nice, though. very close to Shincheon.Hongdaer, but not right in the middle of the mess. 20 minute train ride to Itaewon.
I'm going to go out and look for that coffee shop. |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 2:42 am Post subject: |
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1 parking spot? What's to stop the neighbouring building from taking that spot?
How do narrow streets aid a pedestrian? In my experience, it means that there is no sidewalk, and even if there were one, local businesses will spread their wares all over it. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| BoholDiver wrote: |
| 1 parking spot? What's to stop the neighbouring building from taking that spot? |
I have no idea, and I wouldn't really care if they did.
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| How do narrow streets aid a pedestrian? |
Fewer cars drive on them.
One drawback to the neighborhood for me is that I'm a freelancer on an F-visa, and not many people here want private lessons for their kids. There are only a few hagwons and they are not packing them in here. It seems to be an area where learning English is not so important to many people. Therefore, I'm scurrying around town chasing gigs more than I'd like to. (But that's me, probably wouldn't affect many people reading this.) |
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teretere
Joined: 26 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
| BoholDiver wrote: |
| 1 parking spot? What's to stop the neighbouring building from taking that spot? |
I have no idea, and I wouldn't really care if they did.
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| How do narrow streets aid a pedestrian? |
Fewer cars drive on them.
One drawback to the neighborhood for me is that I'm a freelancer on an F-visa, and not many people here want private lessons for their kids. There are only a few hagwons and they are not packing them in here. It seems to be an area where learning English is not so important to many people. Therefore, I'm scurrying around town chasing gigs more than I'd like to. (But that's me, probably wouldn't affect many people reading this.) |
Is it considered a poorer socioeconomic class that live there?
I thought I once read an article about how most residents of Mangwon wanted to move out as soon as they made enough money somewhere... |
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BoholDiver
Joined: 03 Oct 2009
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sun May 23, 2010 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe they're hoping for a redevelopment project to boost their property values.
In my experience, narrow roads do not deter cars from driving on them. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| teretere wrote: |
| Is it considered a poorer socioeconomic class that live there? |
It�s a relative thing, isn�t it? Not so prosperous as Abkujeong, obviously, but more well-off than some other areas. My impression is that most people here work for a living. There are a handful of smallish high-rise complexes, the kind with gated security and underground parking, less than half a dozen, I�d say. That�s where professional types are likely to be found, people who need to have a car, for instance, either for commuting or for image. Everything else is 3-, 4- and 5-story bilas like where I live.
I think it�s fair to say, though, that it�s a neighborhood, in the original sense of a place where people live and often know each other, maybe even look out for each other, more so than is common these days. I remember reading a few years ago that a majority of Korean children today are growing up above the fifth floor. It�s a sign of modernity that we seldom know more than the names of people living next to us, and I think it�s been true in most parts of the US for a while now, too.
Mangwon is not modern, but in many ways it feels like a more human place to live than some others. It suits me at the moment.
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| I thought I once read an article about how most residents of Mangwon wanted to move out as soon as they made enough money somewhere... |
It�s probably fair to say that about most areas of the city. People in Yeungdeungpo want to move to Mokdong, people in Mokdong want to get into Gangnam. Seoul is a place where everybody�s trying to improve their lot - a lot of striving, a lot of status-seeking. I actually see a little bit less of that here than I have in other parts of the city, but I've only been here less than 6 months.
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| Maybe they're hoping for a redevelopment project to boost their property values. |
Some perhaps, but others would likely oppose it. There are some community activist groups, for instance.
From what I hear, a few years ago � likely around the time of World Cup in �02 � the city government wanted to tear down Mangwon Market entirely, make the areas near the new stadium look all sweet and nice for the foreign people who�d be coming around for the soccer games. There was hue, and then there was cry, and the compromise that was reached was to expand it, calling the new section World Cup Shijang, add a parking substructure and impose some sanitation measures. It�s a far cleaner place than the other surviving open-air traditional markets around the city, and I trust the food I buy there. Fish sellers put sheets of cellophane over their stuff to keep bugs off, for instance, and most of the butchers will cut meat for you, but they also sell it pre-cut in a Styrofoam tray and wrapped in plastic, just like at E-Mart. (Dog carcasses are nowhere to be found, thank buddha.)
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| In my experience, narrow roads do not deter cars from driving on them. |
Our experiences differ, and I won�t argue about anything so trivial, but even though a few of the people in adjoining buildings have cars, I think it�s fair to say that a lot of people who have them would find their way into one of the high-rise complexes rather than among the smaller bilas. Can we agree at least that the narrow streets cause people to drive more slowly?
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akcrono
Joined: 11 Mar 2010
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| Posted: Mon May 24, 2010 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| lille wrote: |
Me and a few friends are converting a basement in Mangwon into an art studio and we all really dig the neighbourhood so far. There's an amazing coffee place about a ten minute walk from the station that this nice fellow seems to keep around just for a hobby. He has all sorts of small-batch roasting gadgets and seems surprised anytime he sees a customer. I'll post directions if you'd like!
Pretty soon we're going to try and get some furniture and a projector for the studio so we can do some film screenings (or at least play big screen SNES). I'll post into this thread when it happens. |
That sounds like a lot of fun. I'm about a 7 min walk from the mangwan t station (away from the han) and I like the proximity to a lot of nice things (esp Hongdae). If you guys want a snes buddy, toss me an invite! |
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jomiro
Joined: 10 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Wed May 26, 2010 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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i live 5 mins from mangwon station. the area itself doesnt have much to offer. but everytying is yet very conveniently close by.
i like living there cuz the rent is low. also, its close to hongdae, shinchon and habjeong. i have three subway stops within walking distance. line 6 and line 2. so i can get anywhere within 30 mins. be it itaewon, be it gangnam or be it kondae. no problem at all.
and although there arent many stores around, its ok as the homeplus is only two stations away.
the only downside to it is, that if you go out on fri/sat night and you want to take a cab home, the drivers most likely wont take you, as you live too close by and they dont earn anything driving you ^^ |
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