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Moldy Rutabaga
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Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Yes, I interviewed for an assistant professorship at a Busan university in 2004 and the interviewer was totally going through the motions; I could tell he had no interest in hiring me. I found out later a Korean woman had already bought and paid for the position. I do not know that the practice is rampant, but it does happen. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Buying a professorship certainly goes on......as does kick-backs to teachers in desirable elementary schools....
....I listened in amazement one night last year during a family dinner as the wife of my Korean brother-in-law complained that she has to cough up 500,000 to her 9 year old's teacher.......why? So that her daughter will not be "ignored by the teacher".
When I asked if all the parents pay this teacher the same amount of money she just shrugged and said they probably do. The same answer when I asked if it goes on in all elementary schools. Probably yes.
That would add up to a nice 15 million per year bonus for that particular teacher. New car? |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Buying a professorship certainly goes on......as does kick-backs to teachers in desirable elementary schools....
....I listened in amazement one night last year during a family dinner as the wife of my Korean brother-in-law complained that she has to cough up 500,000 to her 9 year old's teacher.......why? So that her daughter will not be "ignored by the teacher".
When I asked if all the parents pay this teacher the same amount of money she just shrugged and said they probably do. The same answer when I asked if it goes on in all elementary schools. Probably yes.
That would add up to a nice 15 million per year bonus for that particular teacher. New car? |
And yet she paid up. This irks me about Korean society. She should have gone to the principal, the board of education, the newspapers, even the police. Dont let the teacher get away with this. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Buying a professorship certainly goes on......as does kick-backs to teachers in desirable elementary schools....
....I listened in amazement one night last year during a family dinner as the wife of my Korean brother-in-law complained that she has to cough up 500,000 to her 9 year old's teacher.......why? So that her daughter will not be "ignored by the teacher".
When I asked if all the parents pay this teacher the same amount of money she just shrugged and said they probably do. The same answer when I asked if it goes on in all elementary schools. Probably yes.
That would add up to a nice 15 million per year bonus for that particular teacher. New car? |
And yet she paid up. This irks me about Korean society. She should have gone to the principal, the board of education, the newspapers, even the police. Dont let the teacher get away with this. |
Just so. A society reflects its citizens. Any sort of systematic corruption of this nature can only persist so long as people more or less endorse it via participation. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Well, not everyone is suited to be the whistleblower. The people willing to be Serpico are few and far between. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
When I asked if all the parents pay this teacher the same amount of money she just shrugged and said they probably do. The same answer when I asked if it goes on in all elementary schools. Probably yes.
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It's no wonder some parents are hyperinvolved at public schools here. And I thought they really cared that their kids just got a good education. Ha! Another reason why poor kids have it tough in public schools in Korea.
That said, I'm going to ask my co-teachers and other teachers in the staff room about kickbacks in public schools. They usually deliver the goods. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| eamo wrote: |
Buying a professorship certainly goes on......as does kick-backs to teachers in desirable elementary schools....
....I listened in amazement one night last year during a family dinner as the wife of my Korean brother-in-law complained that she has to cough up 500,000 to her 9 year old's teacher.......why? So that her daughter will not be "ignored by the teacher".
When I asked if all the parents pay this teacher the same amount of money she just shrugged and said they probably do. The same answer when I asked if it goes on in all elementary schools. Probably yes.
That would add up to a nice 15 million per year bonus for that particular teacher. New car? |
One of my middle school CT's was telling me one time she got a can of coffee, or something in a can, but she didn't like that particular product and just threw it into her school supplied storage locker. Then one day a few years later she decided to open it up and found 200,000-won, but she couldn't remember who it was from. She said she wished she opened it earlier so she could have returned the can to the mother. To late, now the mother thinks she accepts bribes.
Supposedly, middle school teachers are bottom of the bribe ladder. Homeroom elementary teachers get a lot of 'gifts' thrown their way since they see their students for almost every class. And High School teachers get a lot since parents are worried about marks to get into university. |
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conrad2
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| Well, not everyone is suited to be the whistleblower. The people willing to be Serpico are few and far between. |
Its just not whistleblowing. Its just a general sense of demanding people do the right thing. I see this in my korean friends and family and it drives me nuts. If somebody is doing something wrong, dont be afraid to stand up some times, other wise things will never change for the better. Dont just say " but thats the way it is in korea, nothing to be done."
My sister in law is in a similar but worse situation, and she just toes the line. |
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The Gipkik
Joined: 30 Mar 2009
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Its just not whistleblowing. Its just a general sense of demanding people do the right thing. I see this in my korean friends and family and it drives me nuts. If somebody is doing something wrong, dont be afraid to stand up some times, other wise things will never change for the better. Dont just say " but thats the way it is in korea, nothing to be done."
My sister in law is in a similar but worse situation, and she just toes the line. |
The pressure to conform to normal Korean customs, it seems, is intense. Suicidally intense. Where are the rebels without a cause in Korea? In Japan, I witnessed a lot of disengaged and alienated people: from gangs of punks riding around city streets on motorbikes so slowly that a bicycle could whip by them, these guys and their molls, faces hidden behind handkerchiefs, to the other extreme--Internet gaming hermits locked up in their rooms for weeks and weeks on end. Something's got to give. |
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8 years down
Joined: 16 Dec 2009
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Happens in other fields as well.
I don't know all the details but it was explained to me like this.. My wife's friend is a nurse. Wanted to be the head nurse at an elementary school. They said the position was hers for small fee of 200,000,000won. That's not a joke.
Her and husband think this is fine, they are selling their apartment, moving to a smaller one and taking out a loan to cover the difference. It blows my mind that they think this is acceptable. How long will she have to work to make that money back?? Where the hell does that money go? She also has a two year old who will need daycare now full time. |
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carpetdope
Joined: 13 Oct 2008
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd consider getting these requests for cash on tape. Is blackmail any less ethical? I think not. |
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