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OiGirl

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: Hoke-y-gun
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| English only in my classroom. But I have no problem with using Korean with co-workers, office staff, parents, and even students, but only outside of class. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 3:55 am Post subject: |
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Hello, Easy-E!
At every school where I have ever worked, the Korean English teachers have shown me absolutely no respect as an English student. They have steadfastly refused to speak to me in Korean. If a third party was present, the Korean English teachers crowded me out. If a third party ever managed to say the simplest thing to me, the Korean English teachers always jumped in and translate.
It came as a shock to me that teachers of a second language could have so little consideration for another person learning a second language.
On the other hand, the children have always been delightful. I hope that you have plenty of time between classes. If you have songs, games, storybooks, or any other material in Korean, the kids will eat it all up. They will speak to you in Korean, they will write messages on the board in Korean, and they will encourage you to speak to them in Korean.
You will quickly learn what "�ѱ��� �غ���" means. If you play teasing games with the kids, you will quickly learn �ٺ� and ��û�� mean.
Does newborn innocence protect the children from the usual prejudices of their society? Or is this generation growing up better than the last?
Whatever the case, stick with the kids and stay away from the adults. |
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Eazy_E

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah you're right tomato. I'm shielded from having to understand anything in Korean, by the adults. But the kids talk to me in Korean and expect me to understand. In my opinion, "�� ��" is the most overused expression in Korean, at least by children. I actually have learned a lot from the kiddies. They've probably taught me more Korean than I've taught them English . |
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Toby

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Wedded Bliss
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I use what little I know - just to help the kids understand certain words - months, days, numbers etc.
The BEST place to practice is in a taxi when you are drunk. Taxi drivers LOVE it when you do and drunk is the only time I feel confident to sustain a conversation. I can talk to my better half all my way home on the phone when I am in a taxi. Usually she is lucky to get more than two words out of me. Dutch Courage. Great stuff. And that is also why Korean men will talk to you in English when they are drunk. Whiskey Courage. |
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just because

Joined: 01 Aug 2003 Location: Changwon - 4964
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:45 am Post subject: |
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| I love talking to the Taxi drivers as well. They are usually so cool if you show a little knowledge of their language |
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Eazy_E

Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 4:46 am Post subject: |
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Yep, the cabbies. I don't have to be drunk to talk to them but usually I'm glad that I did. Them and hairdressers. With those people you're kind of stuck with them for a little while, and chances are they don't speak any English at all. They love speaking Korean with a foreigner! It's usually only a matter of time before you get hit with the inevitable, "isn't Korean food too spicy for you?"  |
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Medic
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:29 am Post subject: |
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I use it as much as I can, because a lot of the students knowledge of English is poor. Basic instructions like "explain it---", "write the answer---", "I can't hear you---", "speak louder---" and so on are unintelligible to them. Now and again I'll ask them to explain something to me in Korean, and they are happy to do so.
Breaks the ice too if you can use some Korean in the class. Students I've found will dispense with their shyness if the Waeguk can use some Korean. |
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waggo
Joined: 18 May 2003 Location: pusan baby!
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Medic wrote: |
I use it as much as I can, because a lot of the students knowledge of English is poor. Basic instructions like "explain it---", "write the answer---", "I can't hear you---", "speak louder---" and so on are unintelligible to them. Now and again I'll ask them to explain something to me in Korean, and they are happy to do so.
Breaks the ice too if you can use some Korean in the class. Students I've found will dispense with their shyness if the Waeguk can use some Korean. |
The reason why they are unintelligible to them is because you havent taught them.How difficult is it to show the kids "I cant hear you".."Speak louder".....as a teacher you are losing a valuable oppurtunity to introduce the students to key instructions. |
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Medic
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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waggo, i do try to teach that sort of dialogue to the younger students, but i get a lot of older university students now and again. they are the ones i have to use the korean dialogue with. they are so burned out of english because of the way it was taught in highschool they need as much help as possible to learn new concepts
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Len8
Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It's true about university students. You can just about tell who wont continue coming from day one, and anything creative you might try will be shot down in flames. Students want to know what they have to study for the test with out any complications, and as little extraneous details as possible. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Of course!
Don't some of your students become embarrassed when they fluff a line or mispronounce a word?
Use the time you have to the fullest and use whatever means available to you to get the material across to your students, and that includes using your own limited vocabulary to cajole and have fun with them.
Ask them for the Korean translation of words and phrases you're teaching them, it'll not only benefit you, but keep them interested and give them more of a sense of participation in the learning process.
The more we demystify the subject for them the more they'll learn, and the more willing they'll be to learn.
Have fun with it!
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I'll second this as it's essentially the way i often approach things. Emphasis on having fun with your classes & using Korean as a "learning" ( i.e. pedagogical ) device.
Good on ya Squid  |
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gi66y
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:26 am Post subject: |
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I do...
I speak with ridiculously bad pronunciation in order to show the kids the importance of speaking clearly. An idea that works well I got from a post by The Beaver (I hope I'm quoting the correct person).
And for joking around to keep the kids entertained. |
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krell
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Yes Korean teachers can be snotty .
Even though my Korean is at a high intermediate level and
at least as good as the English spoken by the Korean teachers
they almost never talk to me. The director's wife
truly resents that I speak Korean (she has no English)
On the other hand I have worked in Hogwans where the teachers
have gone out of there way to speak Korean to me..
so your milage may vary .. |
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