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Why Didn't We Learn From the Ixtoc?
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Jandar



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's like building a ten story apartment building when the fire department has no ladder truck.
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fox wrote:
ropebreezy wrote:
I don't know a whole lot about energy, but I think if we invest in nuclear now (we should have decades ago), we'd be a lot better off and not have to rely on oil so much. Alternative is fine, but nuclear seems to be the most promising in the near future.

Nuclear is at least an industry that has developed numerous numerous failsafes to prevent a catastrophe from happening. From this thread I've gathered oil has done no such thing.


I agree, nuclear is a good, reliable, clean source of energy. I think a combination of nuclear and solar is the best way to go. Wind power can be a decent supplement, but I think the first two alone are more than sufficient to power our entire nation.



Nuclear power is another heavily subsidized industry with everything built with less than optimal technology in unsafe places due to massive subsidies, liability limitations, and government insurance.

The free market refused to build nuclear power because it wasn't safe. It was built too soon, without enough research and development and in all the wrong places.

Drilling oil in the ocean suffers from the same socialistic effects.

In addition, the majority of our energy consumption is a direct result of the socialist system of transportation and infrastructure development that was all built in the wrong places, with inefficient design and the unnecessary reliance on overconsumption and waste of land, energy and pollution of the environment.


This is all a massive clusterf...up due to our socialist system.
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Fox



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ontheway wrote:
Nuclear power is another heavily subsidized industry ...


Pretty much all major energy production is subsidized in the United States. I don't find that objectionable in and of itself.

ontheway wrote:
... with everything built with less than optimal technology in unsafe places due to massive subsidies, liability limitations, and government insurance.


This isn't a priori true. If you have specific issues with how nuclear power is handled, okay; anyway that it can be objectively made better is good. But nuclear power in general is a clean, reliable energy source, and one we should be utilizing more of. You're not talking about nuclear power itself, you're talking about how it's been administered in certain areas.

Also, I don't believe your Libertarian fantasies, so I have no idea why you keep chanting them at me. "Things would be better if only we forced my ideas on the people via a totalitarian government," is simply not a reasonable thing to keep repeating. Like Chellovek said, you're pretty much being nothing more than a mirror-image Communist when you speak that way.
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