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Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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From the link above:
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| Harrison said his home network is unsecured and that he has no idea who might have shared the movie. |
If you're running an unsecured network, you might consider securing the thing. |
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pkang0202
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| CentralCali wrote: |
From the link above:
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| Harrison said his home network is unsecured and that he has no idea who might have shared the movie. |
If you're running an unsecured network, you might consider securing the thing. |
Actually, that is not a good idea, especially if you are pirating. I believe a while back with the RIAA was suing people left and right, a woman had won her case because he was on an unprotected wireless network, and the RIAA could not prove that it was her that was downloading music illegally.
On one hand, its not a good idea to have an unsecured wireless network for many good reasons. On the other hand, having an unsecured network would help in your defense when the copyright police come a knocking. |
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Senior
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Sheeat. Mine is unsecured, as I'm too lazy to work out how to do it. |
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Illysook
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:24 am Post subject: |
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| Isn't it legal in Korea? |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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| The page about deleting files was interesting. What happens if you buy a new computer? |
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AsiaESLbound
Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Location: Truck Stop Missouri
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| The page about deleting files was interesting. What happens if you buy a new computer? |
The ISP's are in on it too where they turn in the identities of accounts that downloaded a particular movie. The ISP's will accept the offer to make some easy money by supporting a law groups request for this information. It's not about what is right and wrong, it's about lawyers and anyone with the information they need to make an easy buck by suing a bunch of people over something stupid. Just the click of a mouse can mean financial ruin to the tune of $150,000 and possibly more. About the cost of an uninsured heart attack sufferer being carted off to the hospital in an ambulance and then sent home after being stabilized and put on super low cost nitrates and beta blockers. I'm glad I always rented Red Box DVD's back home which included, "The Hurt Locker," back in February. And I'm glad I only use prepaid cell phones and no credit cards, because people are getting seriously sued after they quit doing business with unfair creditors and phone companies asking hundreds of dollars in ridiculous fees. For someone sued for $150,000, the fees easily add up into the mid to upper 6 figures for the total principal in just 1 to 2 years either ignoring it or not being able to negotiate a deal on account of being too broke to do anything. The majority of folks won't be able to cough up $1500, because they are walking a fine line on a financial treadmill. If you earn $1500 a month like the average American, but your rent is $700, food is $400, car expenses run $500; that leaves only $100 for other expenses such as clothing or stationary and miscellaneous which is a typical average budget situation now. There isn't much discretionary income in many people's budget now days. And credit cards, cell phones, internet, fast food, and etc. etc. etc. isn't included in my typical American budget layout. Americans are mostly tapped out already as it is so it behooves us to not be illegally downloading movies back home now that we have this example as a real warning. I don't worry about it in Korea. In Korea, who's offering media sales and service catering to Westerners? |
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balzor
Joined: 14 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Illysook wrote: |
| Isn't it legal in Korea? |
as long as you are not pirating anything Korean |
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pkang0202
Joined: 09 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| balzor wrote: |
| Illysook wrote: |
| Isn't it legal in Korea? |
as long as you are not pirating anything Korean |
I have no reservations about pirating things here. Hulu, Pandora Radio, NBC, Google Voice, and a slew of other services that are NOT available to people out side the US do to media rights and other legal crap.
Blocking content to places outside the US encourage piracy. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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The insecurity of torrents is why I use a server located in Europe for doing all my torrents. IF they did catch me, they would first send a message to the company that rents the server and then resells it to me. They would either cut me off, or tell me to stop. Either way I have a couple buffers between me and the law.
Locally I use encrypted FTP.
IMO Newsgroups are a much safer way to get pirated goods. |
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samd
Joined: 03 Jan 2007
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I'm curious as to how they can prove you downloaded and watched a movie if there is no record of it on your computer. Surely all the ISP can provide is that your IP address was used to download a particular torrent, but it doesn't prove that you did it, or that you even watched it.
The pages on deletion of files are pretty comprehensive and the part where they say they will do a forensic examination of your computer to find if you have deleted any illegally downloaded files suggests to me that they need the files to have a case against you. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr. Pink wrote: |
| IMO Newsgroups are a much safer way to get pirated goods. |
I feel the same way. When I was in America, I used newsgroups. In Korea, I feel safe enough to use torrents more or less freely. |
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Fox
Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| samd wrote: |
I'm curious as to how they can prove you downloaded and watched a movie if there is no record of it on your computer. Surely all the ISP can provide is that your IP address was used to download a particular torrent, but it doesn't prove that you did it, or that you even watched it.
The pages on deletion of files are pretty comprehensive and the part where they say they will do a forensic examination of your computer to find if you have deleted any illegally downloaded files suggests to me that they need the files to have a case against you. |
In a strictly legal "beyond a reasonable doubt" sense, you probably could get off if they couldn't find any evidence on your computer. For the average person that gets slapped with these suits, though, such evidence will be found.
Remember, though, that these suits aren't really about the money. They're about scaring people into compliance. They want people to be too afraid to even try to download something. The more or less random people selected to be harassed are just examples to let the average person know that they too could have their finances totally destroyed over a trivial infraction that shouldn't even be part of our legal system. |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:12 am Post subject: Re: Steal movies and THIS might happen ... |
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| Pa Jan Jo A Hamnida wrote: |
http://news.cnet.com/2300-1023_3-10003610.html
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I don't see how this is "awesome news". How many of those 5000 people can afford the amount of money they're suing for? Is one of those 5000 people the person who pirated the movie in the first place? Seems like little more than a petty cash grab by the studio. I predict ruined lives and tied up courts. |
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sarbonn
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Location: Michigan
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| Actually, the latest analysis of this case is that the small studios involved saw the profit that the larger companies were making from going after small fish, so they initiated the lawsuits in hopes of creating a revenue stream that involves specifically the people who settle rather than risk a potential trial. |
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