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Need Advice: Teaching Business English for the first time.

 
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Good Will Riker



Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:07 am    Post subject: Need Advice: Teaching Business English for the first time. Reply with quote

For those who can help:

I am a California native who is married and has been teaching in hagwons for a few years now, and now am strongly considering taking Business English courses on-line to become qualified to teach Business English to adult students here in Korea.

After doing some careful research, some of these Business English on-line courses require you to be TEFL-certified first, but are there Business English on-line courses that a teacher can take without the need for this pre-requisite:(100-hours TEFL + 50-hours Business English certification course = Certified Business English instructor)?

My contract at my current hagwon ends in 6-months, and teaching Business English full-time is what I am pursuing next. However, being married and presently teaching 34-hours of classes per week leaves me about 1 hour to study Business English each weeknight, so a combined 100-hours TEFL + 50-hours Business English certification course (Example ----> "TITC Business English course") is out of the question for me. I would just like to learn and become qualified to teach Business English without the need for a 100-hour TEFL pre-requisite.

Finally, can a regular student-Business English course (Example - "Linguaedge 6-month on-line Business English course") help prepare you to teach Business English just like a Business English teacher certification course, or are the two considered to be different when preparing (training) you to be able to teach Business English to adult students?

There are Korean companies that do not require you to have any training or experience to teach Business English to adult students (i.e. Just Google and printout Business English related materials and articles from websites on-line, etc. like this -----> "Business English e-book"), but I myself am looking into receiving on-line training or teacher certification to be able to teach Business English properly.

Finally, are there any good textbooks available on-line that can help you to teach Business English to a group of adult students?

Any advice would be helpful. Smile
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certification to teach the subject would mean that you have at least a base for understanding the subject AND as a teacher (which explains the need for TESL as a pre-req for some of them).

Having said that - AND having a good base in business (practical and post grad studies) I would honestly suggest that instead you might want to focus your time and attention on getting familiar with the subject matter.

Economics, marketing (not sales), sales, management (operational and strategic), and HRM (human resource management / organizational behavior) are all possible topics where you may need to familiarize your self with the language usage within the topics.

Read your face off and you should be fine teaching the language and usage of the language in the subject matter.

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Good Will Riker



Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Certification to teach the subject would mean that you have at least a base for understanding the subject AND as a teacher (which explains the need for TESL as a pre-req for some of them).

Having said that - AND having a good base in business (practical and post grad studies) I would honestly suggest that instead you might want to focus your time and attention on getting familiar with the subject matter.

Economics, marketing (not sales), sales, management (operational and strategic), and HRM (human resource management / organizational behavior) are all possible topics where you may need to familiarize your self with the language usage within the topics.

Read your face off and you should be fine teaching the language and usage of the language in the subject matter.

.


Thanks for the advice.

ttompatz, I appreciate the help.

Have you yourself used a lot of materials from on-line to teach your business english classes?
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misher



Joined: 14 Oct 2008

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently teach business English and I'm with Ttompatz 100%.

Grab the material online and start familiarizing yourself with it. You don't need a certificate.

After you get some business English teaching experience under your belt that is all what employers will require. If you are on an F series visa the money can be decent 45/50 an hour.
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good Will Riker wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Certification to teach the subject would mean that you have at least a base for understanding the subject AND as a teacher (which explains the need for TESL as a pre-req for some of them).

Having said that - AND having a good base in business (practical and post grad studies) I would honestly suggest that instead you might want to focus your time and attention on getting familiar with the subject matter.

Economics, marketing (not sales), sales, management (operational and strategic), and HRM (human resource management / organizational behavior) are all possible topics where you may need to familiarize your self with the language usage within the topics.

Read your face off and you should be fine teaching the language and usage of the language in the subject matter.

.


Thanks for the advice.

ttompatz, I appreciate the help.

Have you yourself used a lot of materials from on-line to teach your business english classes?


I have used them for ideas (so I don't get over their heads).

I actually have undergrad degrees in business and economics and an MBA (in addition to other assorted pieces of wallpaper) so I didn't need to worry so much about concepts and vocab. The key is to remember that you are teaching the LANGUAGE of business (in context) and not the concepts of business.

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Good Will Riker



Joined: 25 Dec 2009
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
Good Will Riker wrote:
ttompatz wrote:
Certification to teach the subject would mean that you have at least a base for understanding the subject AND as a teacher (which explains the need for TESL as a pre-req for some of them).

Having said that - AND having a good base in business (practical and post grad studies) I would honestly suggest that instead you might want to focus your time and attention on getting familiar with the subject matter.

Economics, marketing (not sales), sales, management (operational and strategic), and HRM (human resource management / organizational behavior) are all possible topics where you may need to familiarize your self with the language usage within the topics.

Read your face off and you should be fine teaching the language and usage of the language in the subject matter.

.


Thanks for the advice.

ttompatz, I appreciate the help.

Have you yourself used a lot of materials from on-line to teach your business english classes?


I have used them for ideas (so I don't get over their heads).

I actually have undergrad degrees in business and economics and an MBA (in addition to other assorted pieces of wallpaper) so I didn't need to worry so much about concepts and vocab. The key is to remember that you are teaching the LANGUAGE of business (in context) and not the concepts of business.

.

Thanks for the advice. Smile

I have been teaching at a private school for 5 months now, and 3 months ago I got a part-time job teaching English conversation class at a corporation in the mornings for an hour before my regular job begins.

The corporation that offered me this morning part-time English conversation class (Which involves me teaching regular English without the need to teach Business English.) offered to expand this position with me teaching a lunch Business English class as well as a Dinner Business English class. As this would have meant that I would have to leave my regular full-time job in only 2 weeks time at my current private school, I told them that I would be interested in teaching Business English full-time at their corporation once my contract expires in January of next year.

As I currently have very little to no working knowledge of Business English, I have 6 months to prepare myself before I make the transition to teaching Business English full-time at this corporation. They value me as a regular English instructor, so that is why they offered me more classes to teach, but in my opinion and in my own personal experience, I believe that I need more study and training in this area before I begin teaching regular Business English classes full-time.

Since I am a novice in Business English (I have a BA in English Education.), and am not a lifelong expert in the subject area, I happen to be more of an English instructor who is teaching the language and concepts of Business English to adult students, rather than a Business degree holder who came to teach English in Korea and Business English just happens to be his/her niche.

I am more of a novice who wants to learn the ropes and get a better handle of Business English before teaching it full-time to adult students. Advice more in that area would be helpful to me.

I appreciate the help. Thanks. Smile
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raptorsfan



Joined: 16 Jul 2009

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After you get some business English teaching experience under your belt that is all what employers will require


I 've looked around countless number of postings online and they all stated that they only want teachers with Business English experience. If that's the case, how can a newbie get a job in this field?
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KoreanAmbition



Joined: 03 Feb 2008

PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP,

Teaching business isn't too difficult as far as just getting the job done. However, your ability to build strong content will be limited.

There is a 2-week course in the UK that is like a CELTA-for-Business type of thing. I's expensive (maybe $2500, can't remember exactly), and you have to go there, but I would say that 2 weeks will set you up for life as far as how to design really good lessons.

At the end of the day though, it's all about the context.... this, in my opinion, is where a lot of business-English teachers would fall short (however, they wouldn't know it).

You can do okay with business-conversation classes.

However, most likely (not to be mean), for business presentations you won't know how to teach them properly. To make matters worse, there are almost no books out there that show it properly either. I'd say most presentation teachers aren't doing much more than just teaching the lesson of a regular "presentation-vocabulary in English". Fortunately, almost no one that you deal with will ever know the difference, so you're safe on that one.

I would say you'll have your hardest time with business writing, because although you can probably edit everything, you really won't know what the structure and content is supposed to truly look like. You'll produce things that Koreans think is great (because they only see the English) but in fact you haven't effectively dealt with the true business side of things.

Have you considered some online business courses? I'm similar to Ttompatz as far as background, and they just assume I know what I'm doing. If you have actual university courses, and recently completed ones, I would wager to say you could sell that better than some TEFL/TESL thing. The correspondence courses aren't gonna be cheap mind you, but you can do it on your own time.

Good luck...
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