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[sulperman]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37404685/ns/business-economy_at_a_crossroads/

I understand the economy is bad, but why should the government pay that long for people not to work? There is ALWAYS a job available somewhere- what makes these people so special that they shouldn't have to settle for something less that what they are qualified for? Qualification does not entitle anybody to anything! So too many people out there want to be designers? Perhaps if you just can't get a job in your field of study, then you should think about looking into something else. Or at least take some "menial" job to get you through while you search for something else, rather than taking government money for two years.

Am I wrong? I mean I could see maybe four months as a nice safety net. Maybe six months. But two years?

[nukeday]

It really seems like they always find a lot of a-holes to interview for these sorts of articles.

"My dating life really took a hit."

"Brodeur said she has quietly started looking for jobs in the restaurant industry. Before going into office work, she worked as a waitress while raising her three kids, and she also briefly owned a restaurant.

But her husband has said that she is too old, and has come too far, for that kind of physically demanding and often low-paying work.

�He said, �I will lose respect for you if you do it,� � she said."

[Seoulio]

[sulperman]

[djsmnc]

My reply to this thread applies to this one as well.

[Seoulio]

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[Seoulio]

No Iunderstand how a market Economy works, I also understand that it basically degrades society, puts the power into the hands of an elite few who control all the wealth, we are at the whims of their decisions and the government has little to no power to do anything about it as they are bought and paid for by these corporations.

Basically every major issue that is detremental to the globe can be linked to market economies. Pollution, Global Warming, many of the wars (including Bush's Iraq war Part Deux) Poverty, Unemployment, African Aids Outbreaks.

But of course no one is going to give a crap til 50 - 100 years from now when the ozone layer is depleted, the polar ice caps are all but gone, our weather patterns are screwed, theres no more oil, our air is toxic etc, then maybe they will all of a sudden slap thier heads and go "ok maybe rampant and uncontrolled capitalism was not the greatest idea"

BUt by then there will be very little to do but ride it out.

Capitalism is the worst economic system ever enacted as it basically rewards the greedy, the selfish and the repugnant criminals whil hard working average joes are at the mercy of the system.

I know HOW a market economy works, I just wish the governments of the world would wake up and figure out that virtually every major problem is caused by it, and that we can not cntinue on this path forever.

[nukeday]

Wow, this article isn't even talking about welfare. It's talking about unemployment insurance. You know, that deduction that comes out of your paycheck in case you get laid off. Now there have been a lot of extensions to keep people getting some amount of income (I think it's what, 25% of your former salary?)

Your unemployment check is related to your income at your job. If you made $50,000 a year, you get more than someone who made $30,000 a year.

If you did not work, you cannot collect unemployment insurance. For example, I can't quit/lose my job in Korea and go back to the states and collect for 99 weeks/indefinitely like some Europeans can.

True "welfare" (2nd and 3rd generation recipients like Senior brought up) is really hard to get and it doesn't last for 99 weeks. That crap died in the 90s, so go get a time machine and celebrate.

[.38 Special]

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[nukeday]

The article is about the states, and the examples cited are a guy in his 30s and a woman in her 50s. Likely they have both worked at their prior jobs for 10-20 years and deserve some kind of compensation considering they paid their unemployment insurance for those periods. Now, 99 weeks as a max (if you worked part time for 2 years, you definitely aren't getting benefits for that long - you might get a few hundred dollars for a few months) is likely due to the current economic crisis. Remember the news about how Congress kept passing extension bills?. I think we can all agree that it's not a sign of corrupt socialism. It's the USA, FFS, the wealthiest western nation with the weakest social safety net. Nor is it a total, complete failure of the market economy (might be yet to come - don't be overconfident - but no need to cite a bunch of simplistic Marx-Engels Cliff Notes either.).

And, as I said,

"If you did not work, you cannot collect unemployment insurance. For example, I can't quit/lose my job in Korea and go back to the states and collect for 99 weeks/indefinitely like some Europeans can. "

The point is, the topic is not welfare (that dirty, yet VERY specific, word), it's unemployment benefits. Did it invoke much pity in me considering the people they interviewed consider themselves "above" restaurant work? No, not really, since in the case of welfare(TRUE welfare) recipients they are required to take ANY work that is offered to them or lose their benefits. Unemployment insurance recipients don't have that requirement, and I won't be listening to any Ayn Rand Jrs. who insist they should.

If you wanna talk welfare, like I said, shift the topic away from the States or get a time machine. Or you could read the article instead of engaging in a two-extremist grandstand - that's what the CE is for. Offtopic has a modicum of self respect, consarnit.

[mmstyle]

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